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Just nostalgia, or were those UJM really as good as I remember them?

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#1 ยท
Back in 1985, after riding a scooter for a few years, I bought my first motorcycle, a Honda Shadow. But a friend who had several years of riding experience bought another new Honda that year, one that seemed pretty daring to me as a novice, a 750 Nighthawk. A few months later on a ride with this friend we switched bikes. The Nighthawk seemed pretty amazing to me, and I was told it was the true "Universal Japanese Motorcycle" that could do most anything. I'll admit that at the time I was really impressed, if a bit intimidated compared to my smallish cruiser. Had I had the money to do so I would have traded in my Shadow for a Nighthawk, but that wasn't my situation. Over the years I have thought about that bike and often thought that if Honda ever made a new version, with modern updates like fuel injection, disc brakes, etc, it would be about the perfect all around bike to own. I haven't seen one on the street in years, and I wonder how much my fond memory is just nostalgia, or was it really as great a motorcycle as I think it was?
 
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#3 ยท
The '65 CB450 was introduced as the UJM 'superbike' and, once Honda realized there was an appetite in the US, introduced the CB750 four years later. I loved both of them, and I wouldn't give up my 450 when riding anything but Interstates, where the 750 is much more capable.
 
#7 ยท
To the OPs question - UJMโ€™s are wonderful bikes - good at just about everything, and with slight mods like saddlebags and fairings can be used for touring along with being great all day rides with more ability in the twisties than most riders will ever need.
They just arenโ€™t that popular sellers I assume is why you donโ€™t see many being made now - adventure bikes are sort of the new UJMโ€™s.
 
#8 ยท
Per my avatar picture, my personal ultimate UJM: 1984 CB700S Nighthawk

Bought it new - have had numerous other bikes come and go over the past 37 years but I've kept this one. Still my all time favorite (although my '21 FJR is giving it a run for the money - ain't modern technology wonderful)! Over the last couple years since I retired I've pretty much reconditioned everything of importance. I had my first major component failure a couple week ago - starter finally gave up. New one installed two weeks ago along with a new valve cover gasket. It's currently undergoing surgery for new fork seals and steering head bearings. I would normally have that done over the winter but since I have something else to ride now......

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#17 ยท
ANOTHER one of my favorite bikes of the 80's!

Another guy in my unit in the Army had one of these, we used to ride together and swapped bikes a lot when riding. IIRC the stock pipes sounded pretty mean on the Nighthawk S. Loved the instrument panel with gear position indicator too. (Loved my V45 instrument panel too - it kind of made you feel like you were "in" the bike and not on it, lol_

My favorite color on the Nighthawk S was the red, white, and blue one they made near the end of their run.

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couple images of the Nighthawk S and V45 Sabre instruments:

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#11 ยท
Yeah, those 750's intimidated me so stuck with a 400 Hawk. Then jumped to a huge Harley Electra Glide that didn't intimidate me a bit. Nearly blew up that bikes motor keeping up with those 750's too though.
 
#15 ยท
Yeah , they were that good .
I really miss mine .

I bought my 1982 Honda CB750C for 40 bucks . It was in parts and pieces , headed for the scrap yard .
The motor had been very neglected and had tossed the A cam chain , freezing it solid stuck .
Over the next month or so , I tore every part of that bike down to threads on the nuts and bolts . Every nut and bolt .
Rebuilt the motor and anything else that needed . Made a few 'slight' modifications while I was at it . ;)
I rode that bike for seven years without much more ado .
It was reliable to a T and comfortable with plenty of power .
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FYI : The Nighthawk was the same bike , just dressed for the club , instead . :)
 
#23 ยท
My 1978 Suzuki GS550 had excellent handling. My 1981 Honda CB900C, not so much. I think it would have benefited from a fork brace. Both of those bikes also had very good brakes (disc front and rear, I've never owned a motorcycle with a drum brake).
 
#24 ยท
My 1978 Suzuki GS550 had excellent handling. My 1981 Honda CB900C, not so much. I think it would have benefited from a fork brace. Both of those bikes also had very good brakes (disc front and rear, I've never owned a motorcycle with a drum brake).
Oh , you poor thing . LOL

Drum in the rear isn't too bad as it helps keep the rear from locking up in the curve or turn . And , the drums can be 'feathered' better than disc in conjunction with the throttle . That , at least in my experience .
I have drum on the rear of all 3 of my bikes . I can lock the wheel on my Simplex at almost any speed . The other two bikes I have set a lot less aggressive .
 
#26 ยท
No ABS maybe????o_O

Skidding is an important part of steering for we adept.(y) (Pre-ABS and Traction Control.)

Here we go! :censored:

89 bikes since 1961 so I have some opinions but lots of the UJM, Pre-Flood bikes were made sweeter by putting on our Rose colored glasses as we glance back in nostalgia.๐Ÿ˜

Sam๐Ÿค 
 
#53 ยท
Check this out:
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So what is it?
A TZ250 street version that we could not have in the USA because it never was 'green' enough?
Judging by the frame and swingarm I'm thinking mid to late1980's... And look, a kick start.

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#35 ยท
I had a brand new Silver 1978 Yamaha RD400 and kept it stock unlike most of it's predecessors. I rode it 72 miles round trip to work on Southern California Freeways and it was ideal, though a little Thirsty and the front end was light through the first 2 gears.:love:

Sam๐Ÿค 
 
#37 ยท
After the braking has been done, even a bit of late braking, but not too late, directional stability, drift, and or slideways, are best achieved with the throttle.
Too much brake, too late, will wash out the front or back, depending which one you are leaning on.
The bikes of the eighties, pretty much did not have the suspension or handling ability, to be very precise.
On my two older bikes, I work through the squiggle first. On bumpy sections they both corner a lot slower, than a more modern better handling bike.
The squiggle, the rear wheel take up, the flexible forks, are all part of the appeal. UK
 
#42 ยท
Krusty, I raced a Yamaha TDI and I believe you did too and they were sort of state of the art at one time and their handling Sucked, as did the suspension, brakes and everything else. A stock RD 350 or 400 would eat them alive but that lean far forward, NUTS on the tank with crazy clip-ons sure looked the part. Straight expansion chambers and Caster oil is still a major turn on for me!!!

Sam:)