We like the Suzuki Bergman 200. It has sufficient power, anti-lock brakes, and a lot of storage space under the seat. Good for in city but not sure about 100km rides.

 

The limit for the lowest tax in my country is the 300cc, so I could get the Suzuki Burgman 200 and still pay the same tax and maybe having some more power. The problem is that the Suzuki Burgman have smaller wheels than SH, and I am afraid of his behavior in a brake

 

About 1100 miles on my wife's Burgman 200. Had to replace the starter relay, later a battery and we replaced the tires. Be sure to test ride one before you decide. The tire size has not created any problem for us.

 

"How do you think will be from Hornet to SH? "

What a SILLY question.

The SH150 is a nice LITTLE Scoot for sure. So is the 200 Suzuki and both are capable of your sedate little 62.14 MPH speeds.

Sam

 

The Honda will be slower, but more practical. Whether that's disappointing is up to you and I don't know you since we just met, so it's hard for me to given an opnion about what you need or like. If you want a scooter with larger wheels and more oomph, doesn't Piaggio make a Beverly 300 with the same sized wheels as the SH150? There's the Yamaha Xmax 300 as well, though I think the wheels are slightly smaller.

 

I don't trust Piaggio with 5.5k Euros and Yamaha Xmax 300 is 11.5k euros, way too expensive, and I don't trust Yamaha either.

SH is 4.1k euros and with my bike in exchange it's 3.2k and it is Honda, after 20 years on the streets with my Hornet 900 only in Honda I trust

I have arranged a test drive and soon I will know first hand if it's a viable choice the SH, I worry about steep uphills, I weigh 110 kilograms and I may want to carry a passenger with me, If it can do that decently then I am fine with it

 

Going from a Hornet 900 to a scooter is an interesting idea, I'm not sure you will have much buy-in from motorcycle enthusiasts.

I just bought a Versys X-300 and that bike is far from exciting.

 

Hope you like it. Let us know what you think after the test ride.

 

I took it for test drive today, it's weak but I'm used to the torque of a 919 cc engine so it was expected that would be disappointed. Another thing is that I feel insecure to press the brakes hard, it has ABS but it didn't activate during my test drive, I didn't went that hard yet the Hornet without ABS feels more secure and stable.

On the positive side I took it to steep hills and it has enough power to accelerate uphill with a 110 kilograms driver. Overall it is decent. It relies a lot on electronics and I have a feeling that they gonna cause problems in the long run, but all modern bikes are like that. I'm leaning towards buying it, I will let it sink for a few days

 

I think SH150 should suit your needs perfectly. Don't know if they have it in your market, but my personal favourite runabout bike is Honda's Winner X 175. Rented these for years in SE and ridden them for thousands and thousands of miles and they are so much FUN. Kinda a moto & scooter hybrid with options for kickstart or electric. Heel & toe shifter. Extremely good suspension & brakes (if you're around 60-70kg).

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I think SH150 should suit your needs perfectly. Don't know if they have it in your market, but my personal favourite runabout bike is Honda's Winner X 175. Rented these for years in SE and ridden them for thousands and thousands of miles and they are so much FUN. Kinda a moto & scooter hybrid with options for kickstart or electric. Heel & toe shifter. Extremely good suspension & brakes (if you're around 60-70mg).

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Winner X

The Honda Winner X is a sport-underbone class bike that features a 150cc DOHC, single cylinder liquid-cooled engine that it shares with the Honda CBR150R, and outputs 16hp of power, making it one of Honda's best bikes in the underbone category. Its fuel t

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The basic reason I want to give up Hornet is that my knees are exposed to the cold air in winter, it has caused me a problem in the knees, I have lost muscle mass around the knee from the cold. I go to the gym for that reason and doing special exercises and improve very slowly. So I must get a bike that completely cover my knees. This is how I ended up in SH, Winner X 175 doesn't seems to provide great cover in that regard, there is some protection but not as the SH

 

If you like Honda, but want more giddyup, there's always the Forza.

 

Forza here starts from 350cc and that means different annual tax, the limit for the lowest annual tax is 300cc and as you might guess I'm determined to pay the lowest tax. On top of that Forza starts from 6.790€, that's a lot. I have no doubt it's a good bike, just not for me

 

A used Forza is likely a better proposition financially and older models like mine are 279cc.

 

Ι got it today, one thing's for sure, it's way more comfortable than the Hornet, but it is weak and I don't trust its brakes

 

So, which scooter did you buy ? And what do you plan to do about the brakes ?

Glad you have a bike/scooter to ride.
Merry Christmas

 

I bought the SH 150, it is a joy to ride, very comfortable, I did 20 kilometers today without realizing it. About its brakes perhaps I will used to them, they are not weak, it's the way the whole bike it behaves when I press them. I don't think there are much one can do about them, it is not Hornet 900

Merry Christmas to you too!

 

I normally ride an 1100 cc Honda Shadow.

This spring & summer I rode a Harley Sportster 883.

This fall I test-rode a 50cc scooter for a short couple miles on residential streets behind the dealership I thought the ergonomics were good. It was very comfortable, and I enjoyed riding it,

but based on prior experience with very small engine bikes (50-200cc) I know it wouldn't be suitable for a person of my size and weight going up any sort of hill.

It sure feels good to just hop on and go,
and the flat platform to put your feet on doesn't feel as insecure as I thought it would compared to straddling a bike & being able to clamp yourself to the vehicle with your thighs.

Bottom line: If I weren't part of riding groups that has other people on big motorcycles-- if I only rode solo -- I think I would be happy with a scooter as long as the engine had sufficient horsepower to pull me up a hill while accelerating and reach the top speed of 55 mph.

 

Great!

The brakes may get better after they are worn in. Brakes & Tires require some use/time to get to their best traction.

Ride safely & have fun

 

I have go 200 kilometers so far, I haven't went top speed yet nor full throttle uphill, not until 1000 kilometers and the first oil change as they suggest... one thing I don't like, the whole key-less system and especially the button on the bike that you have to turn in order to activate various functions, it is unpredictable, quirky and I can't used to it. I'm sure it will also gonna cause problems in the future

 

Thanks for the update. I hope that you get used to the "button on the bike" and that it does not ever fail.
New ways to do old ones do take time for us to adjust. I'm am now liking the keyless features in my 2019 auto.

Stay safe and stay warm.