Motorcycle Forum banner
1 - 20 of 37 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
125 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
I saw an ad for a used Rebel 250. I am waiting to find out the year. It’s supposed to have less than 2000 miles but the seller sayst hat it needs a tuneup. It’s listed for $1100 and it was lowered from 1300. It sounds a little weird to me. If nobody bought at 1300, that leads me to believe there may be other problems with it. My guess is that it was purchased used by the current owner.
Is it possible to fool with the odometer on a motorcycle?
Is there a way to find out what years a motorcycle is? Is there some kind of stamp somewhere?
It appears to have plates, so I’m assuming they belong to the owner but I wouldn’t take that for granted. I don’t know if a stolen motorcycle would have plates on it, though.

Would you bother to look at this for a first bike or are there potentially too many red flags?
 

·
Moderator - Loves All Motorcycles
Joined
·
1,251 Posts
That's a really good price for a Rebel 250! The front neck of the frame should have a metal stamp on it with the year and VIN. If you bring a phone with you, run the VIN through this site: https://www.nicb.org/vincheck

If it's stolen (and the owner reported it), it should show up. If it's not stolen, it should be all clear. :)

As for how sketchy it is, I'd ask the seller to start it. When I bought my first bike (didn't have a license and didn't know how to ride), the seller even took it for a short ride to demonstrate that it works.

The VIN will usually be in the location this person is pointing at, left or right side.

 

·
Registered
Joined
·
125 Posts
Discussion Starter · #4 · (Edited)
I questioned that myself. Plus, since I inquired about the title and VIN, I haven't heard back. It's also located in a large city, where it's supposedly garaged, yet the pictures all show it sitting in an alley. On the same site, I saw two other ads that looked like the same motorcycle. It does seem a little but strange. When I responded to a few other ads, I never heard back. There aren't a lot of used beginner bikes around here.
 

·
Swamp Rat Rider
Joined
·
1,925 Posts
Beware of any Vehicle that " Just Needs A Tune Up " I have often told them you do the tuneup and I'll pay a little extra .. :) No one ever took me up on that yet ..
 

·
Moderator - Loves All Motorcycles
Joined
·
1,251 Posts
It's a 2nd gen Rebel that lives in a city? I wouldn't be surprised if this was used like a scooter. In that case, 2k miles doesn't sound too crazy. So long as he can prove it runs and rides I'd do it.

Sometimes sellers are painful to get a VIN out of before you show up, so often I'll do the VIN check while looking it over.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
125 Posts
Discussion Starter · #8 ·
It's a 2006. The title is supposed to be clear but being that old, the current seller is probably not the first owner and there's no way to know how often or if it was ever serviced. A lot of motorcycles by private sellers seem tone overpriced, at least in my opinion. I haven't actually checked the blue book values but if cars are any indication, then these sellers are over-valuing what they have. I'm surprised dealers don't have a better selection of used but I guess people don't trade in motorcycles the way they trade in cars.
 

·
Moderator - Loves All Motorcycles
Joined
·
1,251 Posts
My Rebel was a 2005. I bought it for $600 last year, sold it for $600 a couple months later. It only had 12,000 miles despite its then owner living in the middle of nowhere in Wisconsin. At the time, Rebels in similar condition were going for $1,200-$2,000. So it's entirely possible to find crazy deals out there. :)

Small displacement bikes are kinda a trend right now, so bikes that should be cheap are now appreciating in value. Even bikes that people hate like the Buell Blast are asking for stupid prices. Had I kept my Buell until this year I could have made a profit off it! lol

 

·
Registered
Joined
·
125 Posts
Discussion Starter · #11 ·
My Rebel was a 2005. I bought it for $600 last year, sold it for $600 a couple months later. It only had 12,000 miles despite its then owner living in the middle of nowhere in Wisconsin. At the time, Rebels in similar condition were going for $1,200-$2,000. So it's entirely possible to find crazy deals out there. <img src="http://www.motorcycleforum.com/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" />

Small displacement bikes are kinda a trend right now, so bikes that should be cheap are now appreciating in value. Even bikes that people hate like the Buell Blast are asking for stupid prices. Had I kept my Buell until this year I could have made a profit off it! lol

So, would 1100 be fair for an 06 with around 2000 miles? It’s kind of hard to believe that it only has 2000 miles in it, though.
 

·
Moderator - Loves All Motorcycles
Joined
·
1,251 Posts
That price would be fair provided the owner is honest about it just needing a tuneup. I wouldn't worry too much about the odometer. I'm not sure why, but a lot of people buy bikes and hold onto them for years without riding them. Last year I bought a 2008 Bashan MC-16-150T scooter that literally had all of 3.8 miles on it. My Yamaha DT175 only has 3k miles despite being far older than I am and in good condition.

I guess people buy bikes, ride them a few times a year, then let them sit in storage/garage forever.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
125 Posts
Discussion Starter · #13 ·
I wish i knew someone in the area who rode who could ride it and take a look at it for me. Even if the owner rides it, it may need brakes or something. I wouldn’t know if there were any problems with the clutch. Buying used from a private owner for me is going to be difficult because I don’t know anybody with a truck or trailer either. I’d probably have to overpay at a dealership just to be able to have them deliver it to me.
 

·
Ace Tuner
Joined
·
3,772 Posts
Everything is good, it just needs a "tune up".
That is code for, it needs to be fixed... so it will run.

Or, if it does run at all it doesn't run right. Same thing, it needs to be fixed.

These days a tune up on that bike is hardly more than installing new spark plugs and checking the air filter...
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
125 Posts
Discussion Starter · #15 ·
So, what’s the worst case scenario? If it does run, what’s the worst that could be wrong with it?
I guess it could need brakes and possibly tires too. I don’t want to spend 1100 and then end up spending another 1000 for repairs. I don’t think it would be worth that.
I don’t know how long this person has owned it but I’m guessing it was never serviced. I don’t know what the service intervals are for motorcycles either. Cars usually have more miles on them anyway, so they’d be serviced more often.
I saw another one that was a lot closer to where I live but it needs a battery, which means it doesn’t run, so there’s no way to know if it only needs a battery.
 

·
Ace Tuner
Joined
·
3,772 Posts
Hard to tell what may, or may not be wrong with it.
A 2006 with 2000 miles on it? You can pretty much count on it having the original tires. Those tires are bound to be hardened with age.
The brake shoes and pads should still be good but the hydraulics could be gummed up.
My guess would be that the carburetor needs an overhaul from lack of use during years of setting up. (Tune up?)
Probably bad fuel in the tank with a chance of rust inside, dead battery too.
I wonder if it's ever had an oil change??? (13 year old oil, bad).
Just a few things I can think of off the top of my head.

Porky says you can get a new one for $2600.
$1100 is way toooo high for the risk involved IMHO.

The above is me assuming it does not run and has not run for years....
 

·
American Legion Rider
Joined
·
26,421 Posts
So, what’s the worst case scenario? If it does run, what’s the worst that could be wrong with it?
I guess it could need brakes and possibly tires too. I don’t want to spend 1100 and then end up spending another 1000 for repairs. I don’t think it would be worth that.
I don’t know how long this person has owned it but I’m guessing it was never serviced. I don’t know what the service intervals are for motorcycles either. Cars usually have more miles on them anyway, so they’d be serviced more often.
I saw another one that was a lot closer to where I live but it needs a battery, which means it doesn’t run, so there’s no way to know if it only needs a battery.
Worst case would be it needs a full rebuild if it blows blue smoke out the tail pipe. If you can, pull the spark plugs before trying to start it. That will give you a hint as to how it was running when it was last run. Normal tan plugs would be okay. But black would say it was getting far too much fuel for some reason. Might just be a blocked air filter but could be other reasons. But if others have already tried to start it, reading the plugs might not say a thing except it won't start.
 

·
Moderator - Loves All Motorcycles
Joined
·
1,251 Posts
Holy smokes, I thought Rebels sold well enough that there wouldn't be brand new 2016s still for sale three years into the future. :surprise:

Well then, that changes my perspective. Whether the asking price is fair or not really really depends on what the owner means by "tune up". Carbs could use a clean, but still runs? Sure, that's an easy fix and a great way to teach yourself some of the basics of motorcycle maintenance.

If like SemiFast says, you need to clean the tank because of rust/gummed fuel and you need to get it new tyres because the current ones are the ones that came with the bike? Run far away. So, my verdict is that it's worth a look but only worth negotiating for if it's road ready with minimal work. I'd do it for you if you were local, I love the thrill of bike shopping! :D
 
1 - 20 of 37 Posts
Top