It looks like the Chinese are serious about the motorcycle industry. Some may not like them getting into the European and North American markets but it looks like it's coming. Many didn't like the Japanese doing it either.
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Pretty good answer except I fail to see where watching or not watching Fox News adds anything to your response. Such a haughty sounding comment merely causes the reader to lump you in with Left wing lunatics and brings discredit to your answer.
Another good answer, however let me add that I do not find the actual news reports on Fox to be biased in either direction. In fact, they seem to be pretty factual. It’s when you get to the editorialists in the evening like Hannity, Ingraham, etc that the bias is so obvious that I cannot watch them. But Fox is the only one that I consider as reporting the news itself in a rather unbiased manner. ALL of the others have a left wing slant, especially MSNBC, NBC, and CNN.
Come to South Texas? I’m already here. Home in San Antonio and ranch in Gillespie County. Good, salt-of-the-earth people. Don’t really run into many of the folks you’re referring to. Some, but not enough to matter.
I’m not buying a motorcycle made in China either.
What you call “conservative” is the America that I grew up in. Our values were grounded in keeping government small and out of our lives as much as possible. We practiced self-reliance and had a sense of personal responsibility, much unlike so many that I see today. We didn’t count on the government to be our nanny. We helped our neighbors if they needed it and we had relatively intact family units and a much lower rate of illegitimacy than what we see today. We had a natural distrust of very large corporations and banks, but we also gave them a fair day’s work for a fair day’s pay. Drug use? Pretty much limited to alcohol and nicotine; the harder stuff was confined to a very small segment of society. Hollywood tried to reflect these values back then, but that was before the writers saw “value” in ridiculing traditional America. We also lived within our means both individually and within our government and didn’t have multi-trillion dollar annual budget deficits so that our government representatives could play Santa Claus to the voters. We also had a profound sense of duty to serve our country if need be.
Yes, I’m talking about the 1950’s and early 60’s, probably well before you were born. The “smart boys” of today will try to tell you that that America was a myth, that we had racism and a poor distribution of health care, etc., but I’m here to tell you that that America was very real. Sure, we had problems, and we worked on them and went through quite a lot in the process of making right what was wrong. But we never stopped trying to make the country better.
And, no, we do not want to walk back the progress we have made on our shortcomings, despite what liberals in the media and those in the populace who have swallowed their swill will proclaim. What we want is to do away with the sense of entitlement that seems so pervasive throughout all of our society today and return to citizens having a sense of honor, duty, patriotism, empathy, while also valuing themselves both spiritually and physically.
I realize that this probably seems like “right wing” fascist drivel to you and probably to others as well, but that’s on you, not me.
So, I guess you think serving in the defense of our country is somehow akin to “killing others to try and prove you are right.” This is a great example of exactly what I was talking about in my post above. The thinking has gotten so convoluted among younger people that there doesn’t seem to be an accurate ethical compass anymore. With people like you the U.S. could never have fielded an army that would’ve stopped Hitler or the Japanese because killing their soldiers just “wasn’t right.” Wowser. It may be worse than I thought.
Sorry, dude, but I didn’t hear anyone saying “war is great.” The fact is, war sucks and it sucks very badly. However, let’s take a simple look at history: Hitler, the expansionist, decides to annex the Sudetenland. He also began a program of rounding up “undesirables” in Germany, which included Jews, Gypsies, and left wing activists. He also decides that Austria should be part of Germany, so he takes it. In 1939 he invades Poland in conjunction with Russia who makes a grab of Polish land from the east while Hitler invades from the west. In response Britain and France declare war on Germany. Hitler’s blitzkreig moves on to take France and Germany begins a relentless bombing of London and other targets in Great Britain. Meanwhile, Japan is locked in a brutal war with China in an effort to expand their territorial reach. They depend on oil and steel exports from the U.S. to fund their war machine. In response to the brutality of the war and the Rape of Nanking, the U.S. withdraws all trade in steel and energy from Japan. In response Japan sees the U.S. fleet as the only impediment to their expansionist agenda so it decides on a bold move to sink that fleet while they still have the energy supplies to do so and the result is the attack at Pearl Harbor. The U.S. declares war against Japan in response to being attacked and Germany declares war on the U.S. because of their treat with Japan. The U.S. declares war on Germany and WWII is full throttle on.How many innocent people were killed? While there were 15 million military deaths, civilian deaths were 38 million, many of those by allied forces. Then add the rapes, homelessness, etc., etc. Yeah, isn't war just great!
Now exactly what would you have done in this situation? Would you just sit back and let Germany and Japan run amuck with their imperialist agenda, an agenda that had led to the murder of millions of innocent civilians? I guess you would’ve done exactly that because going to war might endanger a blind salamander or something like that. Or perhaps do nothing because someone might get killed in the process. That is flawed and downright pathetic thinking.
The United States is the only nation in the world that ever went to war with countries that it later rebuilt and assisted in becoming free nations without seeking retribution for the cost of that war. The U.S. soldier only went to war in an effort to end a horrible war that was already being waged by imperialist nations. For you to imply otherwise is not only disingenuous, but it’s a downright lie that can only be uttered with a straight face by someone who is totally devoid of any sense of history or justice. You seem to embody exactly what I’m talking about in my comments above. The lack of a historical perspective is appalling and your lumping in the service of the U.S. military with that of despotic nations is despicable. Grow the hell up and try reading something other than the left wing drivel that has apparently eaten away your brain.
There doesn’t seem to be any point in continuing this thread, because I seriously doubt you have the ability to understand anything I am saying.
I spent my career as an economist and I can assure you I know full well what fascism is. I also know that most people have a very flawed sense of the political spectrum, yourself most likely included from what I see of your writings. You tend to see the political spectrum as fascism on the right and communism on the left. However it is much different from that. The proper way to view it is the total absence of government on the right to full bore total government control of everything on the left. Within that spectrum, but very much on the left side of center is a mini spectrum that has fascism on the right and communism on the left, in that they both represent a very high level of government control. The US today is very much left of center, but any of the forces that view this as not a good place to be from the standpoint of personal freedoms are somehow labeled fascist? It’s a ridiculous labeling attempt by people who are either trying to conjure up the fascist boogeyman, or are just plain ignorant.
We were! Until numbnuts Joel swerved us into the political with his anti Fox News rants. I’m done with the political and ready to get back to bikes.
So right you are Krusty!! Have fun in the sun and rent a motorbike if possible! The wife and I went to Key West a number of years ago and rented a little Vespa and we went everywhere on that thing. We had a blast! And when I was a teenager I wouldn't have been caught dead on a Vespa!!
Now THAT’S funny!
Joel, you don’t know what in the heck you’re talking about. You’re only going by some lib bs you read somewhere, but meanwhile those of us born in the 50’s who actually experienced the country as it actually was give witness to the FACT that that America did very much exist.
You attempted to brush aside my previous comment about this subject by claiming that I was part of a privileged class, insinuating that I was to the manor born. However you purposefully left your statement a little vague so you would have room to dispute whatever reply I made, which is precisely why I didn’t make one. I grew up in a very blue collar neighborhood and lived in an 800 sq ft house. My dad didn’t even make $5k a year and we grew vegetables in the back yard to help with the grocery bill. I went to work when I was 11 years old delivering newspapers to save money so I could go to college. I did have an intact household and a loving family and that helped me tremendously in forming my value system. I helped my father with the yard work and never, ever asked to be paid for it. I had no allowance and worked for everything I had. So if that’s your idea of privilege well, it’s obvious that you have no idea what you’re talking about. I bought my own first car but not until I could also afford the insurance.
America was a wonderful land of opportunity and we never whined because nobody ever gave us anything. You’re talking from lib writings as your information base vs real life experiences. You will never win the argument because you arguing from your vantage point makes you look silly, ignorant and condescending. In other words, why don’t you just cease and desist and leave the grownups alone.
Ahhhh, the race card! Not only that but the
Male card AND the Straight card! All at once! I was wondering how long it was going to take your shallow mind to throw those cards down. Which is exactly what I was talking about when I said you were throwing out the privilege card and were leaving the door wide open so no matter how I responded you could come back and play them. Sorry, Joel, but that dog won’t hunt. Who do you think passed the Equal Credit Opportunity Act? How about the 1964 Civil Rights Act? Truth in Lending Act? And on and on. It was MY generation who got them passed and the reason was that America is a constantly evolving idea, with a goal of always moving forward towards a more perfect Union. But sometimes overcorrections happen. And that’s exactly what has happened to result in the Entitlement Society which you seem to crave. It has also been my experience that people who spout nonsense such as you do are really underachievers who have never really accomplished anything with their miserable lives and are really so jealous at those who have done well that they seek to use the mechanism of government to try to “even things up.” It’s called “class envy” and you seem to have a bad case of it.
Joel, you’re just not worth my time anymore. You just try to bait to get the responses you want so you can get up on your pious soapbox and spout your drivel. I’ll bet you get along real well in Victoria (not).
Male card AND the Straight card! All at once! I was wondering how long it was going to take your shallow mind to throw those cards down. Which is exactly what I was talking about when I said you were throwing out the privilege card and were leaving the door wide open so no matter how I responded you could come back and play them. Sorry, Joel, but that dog won’t hunt. Who do you think passed the Equal Credit Opportunity Act? How about the 1964 Civil Rights Act? Truth in Lending Act? And on and on. It was MY generation who got them passed and the reason was that America is a constantly evolving idea, with a goal of always moving forward towards a more perfect Union. But sometimes overcorrections happen. And that’s exactly what has happened to result in the Entitlement Society which you seem to crave. It has also been my experience that people who spout nonsense such as you do are really underachievers who have never really accomplished anything with their miserable lives and are really so jealous at those who have done well that they seek to use the mechanism of government to try to “even things up.” It’s called “class envy” and you seem to have a bad case of it.
Joel, you’re just not worth my time anymore. You just try to bait to get the responses you want so you can get up on your pious soapbox and spout your drivel. I’ll bet you get along real well in Victoria (not).
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