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I just read PA and NJ are closing gun shops. NJ state Troopers have closed down their NICS system and some gun shops have been closed in certain cities in California. Maybe that is old news, but it just came to my attention, not that it effects me.

On the good news side, Lamar's Donuts is open both drive thru and lobby for takeout, which is where I'm heading on Thursday, 380 mile round trip ride, yippeee! OK, not just for donuts (although they are that good), rather have an appointment at the germ capital of Phoenix (VA Medical Center) on Wednesday, will over night and hit Lamar's in the morning....yummy!
 

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That’s also why I think this stuff has been here in years past and it was just called the flu.
Would be nice to know details about how our immune system reacts to this latest virus. With the flu, the older folks have been subjected to many strains, going back to the fifties. Years ago I signed up for an ongoing survey of peoples health.
Last time in the body shop I asked the nurse why no one had ever called me. She said it was because I was too healthy. I thought it made sense to study the healthy as well, to find out what works.
Why are many well known folks, actors and politicians getting the virus. Our PMs wife for instance.

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"The prime minister ratcheted up Britain’s response with an address to the nation on Monday evening, warning that people will only be allowed outside to buy food or medication, exercise alone once a day, or to travel to work if absolutely necessary."
Really glad we had that war a few years back. I'm sure Cuomo will try but he doesn't have that power.
 

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I heard that US govt is going to enact a new law to print digital money and to create digital wallets for aid payments will be done to citizens due to Corona issue. Have you heard about it ?
 

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Haven't heard the specifics you describe. But doesn't surprise me. I can confirm there are plenty of right wingers flipping to the left. I think we can safely assume who is going to be the new record holder for the republican president that increases the national debt by the biggest margin. Free money coming for some. Details later on how it's distributed, and what good it does.
 

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On a positive note:
There is a stall in congress on the details. Making it a business as usual scenario.

To be fair to Trump:
He does appear to be coming back to the right a little this week.
 

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there are plenty of right wingers flipping to the left.
i can't tell you the number of people who would have flipped out if obama did this but are praising trump. it's ridiculous for the government to print money for people during this economic shutdown. it's also ridiculous that the economy has shut down (via government order) for a virus that's hardly done anything.
i can see changing unemployment to allow people to collect during this time if they're not working but 100% of government benefits should be subject to a drug test. also, how many of the people who were 'laid off' will need to take a drug test to get their job back and fail?
 

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The US is closing in on being the new epicenter. Might be a good time to lay off criticizing other countries health care services. As usual I will not qualify for any financial help. I may be one of a very small group supporting the lumber yard. If I can get the concrete delivered this week, I should be able to get most everything else up to the roof on, from our local supplier. Some of the Gulf Islands are not allowing non residents on their islands. We have not done that yet.
Being mostly stuck at home other than rides, is a lot like the fifties. But take away the phone, internet and movies, multiple lights, multiple TV shows in color, to get the real feel. Bed at 9, one wash per week, bread and jam and tea for a three course meal. Our grocery store was short on a lot of stuff yesterday afternoon. I will have to go early next time.
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The US is closing in on being the new epicenter
well of course the US is. 330 million in this country. all of europe is only slightly more so if you're going by country population, of course the US will report more than others.
the house has proposed a $2.5 trillion relief bill. it started as $0.8 trillion before special interests got involved so that means there's about $1.7 trillion in non-corona related funds.
as the numbers come in, we're finding the mortality rate of this virus has fallen to 0.3% and the contagious rate is now below 4%. i'll not lay off any country's response to this and the media for inciting panic. this has destroyed the global economy and countless people's lives.
 

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When presenting numbers, the medical folks use percentages, that accounts for the population sizes. Simple math from Canada, is the US is ten times bigger for population. So if the US infection rate is more than ten times greater than Canada we can draw a conclusion. Then we can look for other issues. There is info available on the US and Italy numbers. Good reports will explain the varying factors.
Confusing would be your comment about this country, while displaying a Canadian flag. Would you care to show your location, as I do. I have briefly read a report by a 31 year old in Florida who contracted the virus. He works in the medical business. It is scary.
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The media stacks the deck to make things appear worse than they are. I for one am not suggesting this is not a serious situation, and all reasonable measures should be taken to curve, contain, or eliminate it. All out lock downs, screwing up the economy is not the answer. To do so is even counter productive.
 

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if you hover over the flag, it says Hamlin, NY. i don't know why it shows a canadian flag, i also get redirected to canadian websites for some reason.

most reported numbers right now, from any country, are misleading because of selection bias. we're not testing everyone. My old plant manager was "diagnosed" via telehealth, not a test, so he's not reported in the numbers. same thing with most people. the only confirmed cases are those tested. i can tell you i know a bunch of folks who have self quarantined because they have been around people who have it, he is the only one i know who a doctor said he probably has it and i don't know a single person who has been tested.
 

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^ And there's the problem with the mortality rate numbers. There is no way to tell how many are infected, could easily be 2, 3, 4 times higher than known confirmed numbers. But as far as the number of those dead from the virus, that is going to be an accurate number. I know this has been said before, I'm saying it again.
I'm just going to corona irritate everyone
 

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if you hover over the flag, it says Hamlin, NY. i don't know why it shows a canadian flag, i also get redirected to canadian websites for some reason.
Just information, when I hover over your flag nothing pops up. When I hover over your avatar the pop-up does not display or list a country, I'm on a PC with Firefox
 

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Just information, when I hover over your flag nothing pops up. When I hover over your avatar the pop-up does not display or list a country, I'm on a PC with Firefox
@skant153 That is true, I can't see your location either. If you want it to show up with the hover. You have to enter it in some how your self. I can't remember how to do it. I can see Eagle Six's location with a hover maneuver, maybe he remembers how to enter it.
 

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Just information, when I hover over your flag nothing pops up. When I hover over your avatar the pop-up does not display or list a country, I'm on a PC with Firefox
Same for me.
When I hover over my avatar it says Gabriola Island BC. I get Navajo and Atlanta for the guys above, but nothing for Skant.
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Six - good luck with your tests tomorrow.


Those of you who know me, know that I am right of center sometimes way right. That been said common sense does have to enter into this scenario:

This virus is contagious period. You catch it by being around people who have been infected.

Italy infection rate is slowly coming down, they have been in a 3 week lock down.

US infection rate continues to grow. NYC is becoming the new epicenter.

Maryland has 349 cases as of this morning, 62 more since yesterday, 4 comfirmed deaths

My county has confirmed 26 cases. Maryland closed all non essential businesses as of 5 pm yesterday. Everything except grocery is take out only. Grocery stores are doing their best to stock shelves and keep people six feet apart. You can go out but only in groups of 10 or less. Larger groups will be stopped and broken up or arrested.

My wife and I went into a voluntary lock down over a week ago and we elect to stay there for a while. I realize some of you believe you have the right to do what ever the hell you want and the government can't control you, remember your actions can affect not only you but thousands if not millions if you are sick. If you aren't sick but go out and get sick, see the line before this one.

We need to listed to the medical advisers and take this serious it is very serious world wide problem and we alone can't stop it. But we can help by keeping our asses away from everyone else for as long as needed. Yes I know it sucks that you can't work and not making any money. If you are dead it won't matter. If you survive things will get better. Our government wants to help but can't quit fighting long enough to provide a fair relief for every working man and woman. You can call it socialism if you want but I don't think it is that, socialism gives you something for nothing, you are earning this by using common sense and not spreading this germ.
 

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I realize some of you believe you have the right to do what ever the hell you want and the government can't control you, remember your actions can affect not only you but thousands if not millions if you are sick.
Well said and true Critter.
WE GOTTA WORK TOGETHER on this people. (Even if the politicians won't)!

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