That's hard to find. Years ago during my first riding era I had a leather jacket with a snap flap over the zipper. Then 15 months ago when I started riding again I went looking for a jacket like that, and found only a few that weren't very good quality. Apparently that flap has gone out of style. I finally found (and bought) a used Hein Gericke First Gear leather jacket with the desired snap flap. Great jacket. There's quite a bit of decent motorcycle gear for sale on poshmark.com.An external flap (over the zipper) with snaps might be the answer you're looking for. A good metal zipper alone might work too.
I have not been keeping up on this thread like I should so excuse my question. Did he answer my question about whether it was zipped all the way up or partially? I think that’s where you are headed isn’t it UK?I would like to know the position of the movable part of the zip, when it came undone.
That is what I am after, same as you. With the slide all the way up, it is not easy for it to be tugged down from tension on the shoulder. With the slide one third the way down, I can visualize it being pulled down from a sideways tug.I
I have not been keeping up on this thread like I should so excuse my question. Did he answer my question about whether it was zipped all the way up or partially? I think that’s where you are headed isn’t it UK?
Everyone please read the whole thread before posting questions I already answered or spoke of. Thank you. As I said in my original post, it was "fully zipped" so that should be pretty clear. Which means all the way to the top. There are other questions people are posting which I am sure I already covered if they would read the thread from the beginning. Here's more info also: the jacket was snug fit, like a glove. I had to have my wife help me pull it over my shoulders to remove it after every ride, after it I unzip it even. It was purchased in a store. They have them zipped up all the way and on hangers on racks. No disclosure tag in full sight. As I said before, it is hidden on the inside and you have to unzip the jacket and search for a folded up, ironed in half, little black tag that matches the color of the rest of the inside. I thought is was just a care tag. It is not readable without folding it back and forth because they iron it in the middle. Any disclosure stating that the jacket should not even be considered (thought of as) personal protection should be on the top, in plain view, even when zipped up, where the big red and white Bilt tag is! Diversion? Why ist that one big and bright? The jackets should not even be for sale as a motorcycle jacket in a motorcycle gear store. I have never heard of anyone else seeing this tag and not buying or even returning it. I'm guessing I'm the only one. That is what I'm trying to tell people. I'll bet nobody else here has ever searched a new jacket for all the tags and read them all before buying or using. And again, the leather is great. Barely received a few scuffs.My post about leather quality was for general knowledge. The average shopper may not be aware, and may not know the difference. I also would have questions about why and how the zip came undone.
I have slid on dry pavement at much higher speeds, and only scratched the leather.
It is my experience with at least three different jackets by two brands, that leather goods made in Pakistan have crap zippers. One of these was a Tourmaster jacket where the zipper failed on a cross country trip and I had to find a luggage shop to get it replaced. Another one, my current Built brand, had a zipper failure in the first year I owned it. I took it back to the shop and they paid $40 to have a luggage shop install a new zipper because I really liked the jacket and I still wear it seven years later. The third one was a Built jacket that I bought for my daughter who lives in San Francisco. When the zipper failed I tried to get the local Cycle Gear there to pay for a zipper replacement like my Cycle Gear did and they refused. Instead they offered to replace the jacket, which cost a heck of a lot more than replacing the zipper. She ended up getting a textile jacket instead. Other than the zipper, my Built leather jacket has held up well, although it has faded some. It is the most comfortable, best fitting motorcycle jacket I have owned, and the leather seems to be as thick as any of the four other leather jackets I have owned..
Thank you for the post. Our motorcycle pants with CE armor at the knees and hips save our lower half. The pants ripped at the knees, but the kevlar held up at about 30mph. My wife still suffered a broken leg, I suspect the bike fell on her.I appreciate the OP posting this. We need reminders every now and then about how important gear is and how quality gear is worth the price.
A friend of mine had a similar incident with kevlar lined jeans. A high side at about 30 mph. The jeans tore (kevlar and all) and he suffered not-insignificant abrasions to his knee (he had the CE approved knee armor removed for some reason).
Seems to me kevlar is fine if you have a gentle low side that plops you down and you slide to a stop on some smooth asphalt. But if you are tossed a few feet in the air and go down hard on a roughly paved country road, the kevlar may not survive the shearing/tearing force of the impact. Leather only for me...
I just checked. It doesn't lock down like some do. It's just a big, floppy, loose pull tab. YKK Zipper. I assumed mine was going to stay up, with it zipped up to the top. During the crash the asphalt pulled down the arm/chest area on the leather, (which only received minor scuffs) then rolled the collar down over my shoulder and down my arm.There is a thought in the back of my head that zippers have locks.. Now I don't know if that is a fact or not, but for some reason i believe that once you zip it up you should make sure the tab is firmly closed in the down position and that locks it.
......Or it could just be the voices in my head..............