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Good starter Porky but the problem I see isn't the lack of starter bikes but the need to get people ego in check to start on a smaller bike. I don't see a solution there. How many threads do you see that says, I'm just starting but is this 50,000cc bike too much. Over stated on purpose.
 

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I convinced my son, and my wife, to ride a 440cc bike for their first year. They both thanked me later on (repeatedly, over the past 5+ years), after they had moved to larger bikes. My son went to a 90 HP, 600cc rocket... Being young, and full of himself, he laid it down 3-4 times, that I know of -- never hurt, but he proudly told me, "I never slow down for corners..." Duh!! My wife handled our CB750 easily, after that first year on the 440cc bike; she handles our 1200cc full touring bike quite easily, as well -- I frequently doze off when she is driving, as I trust her that much (two-up, we trade positions every two hours on long trips). It makes a difference learning, spending your first year on smaller bikes, before graduating to larger, heavier, more challenging to handle, more powerful bikes.

If you get the chance, be a mentor to new riders. Be polite, and firm in your recommendations -- their very lives may depend on it. In the end, though, they're likely adults, and they have the freedom to make their own decisions -- pray they survive their choices... Cheers!
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I took a look at the Hero Deluxe bike: NICE styling, nicely equipped for such a small bike. I'm curious about the enclosed chain: this has the potential of being bathed in oil, at all times, which would make it last forever... The saddlebag protective bars are nice, and blended into the overall design, so they don't stick out. It's actually a very sharp looking bike -- love the black & chrome exhaust pipe. The designers could get work at most of the big bike producers, I suspect. They really have a great aesthetic in this bike's design which captures the classic tear-drop concept, but they've added in some features which are more modern, as well. Thanks for sharing. Cheers! ;)
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Nobody likes "More government!" but wouldn't the solution be limiting riders to certain cc: siize bikes in their first and second years of riding?

Like those DAMN SOCIALISTS in Europe do? ;)

I've only recently begin riding a passenger WITH CONFIDENCE, after many, many years of riding solo.

Again, shouldn't 2-up be restricted to those, by law, with a CERTAIN amount of experience?

If one-size fits all rules cause us to chafe, what about having to have passed an advanced rider test to ride anything over 150cc or 2-up?.

(Although I'm sure Honda and Kawasaki will lobby for a 300cc threshold so they can sell all those CBR's and baby Ninjas)

I guess the bottom line is whether or not we believe the government SHOULD protect people too stupid to protect themselves with helmet laws, seat belt buzzers, airbags, ... because these folks OFTEN end up incurring medical bills that YOU and I pay for because they're un or under-insured and OFTEN end up with million dollar rehab for traumatic brain injuries, etc.

I have REPEATEDLY suggested allowing the "free market" to handle the helmet thing, one insurance rate for those who wear helmets, another insurance rate for anyone EVER seen, photographed, ticketed, pulled over, ...on a motorcycle who was NOT wearing a DOT approved helmet.

That gives the power to "big insurance" rather than "big gubbmit"
 

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Yup we need more folks to start out on smaller bikes.
Nope, we don't need regulations that force them to.
I can think of three over 40 females who started out on Harley baggers and countless males who started out on 600cc bikes with no incident.
My son started out on a ZX600RR and had zero problems.

I personally started out on a CL125 because it was the law that people younger than 16 start on a 125 or smaller. Two years later I was on a 400 and three after that a 1000. But that progression was more because of budget than safety.
 

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I know of all sorts of older riders who went out and bought midlife crises bikes and got themselves into trouble.

Including a guy who punched it through the front of his garage wall; he'd had it delivered by HD, didn't HAVE A CLUE how to ride. Nice guy, too. In my bible study.

This, fortuately, provides an endless source of cheap, barely ridden bikes for the rest of us.

I ALSO know of plenty of owners of "big bikes" who don't know how to corner properly, afraid to lean, and try and "steer" around corners. One of the reasons I don't do group rides, charity rides etc Too many beginners on big bikes.

What they need, IMHO, is a year or so on a 125 dual sport to actually learn how to ride, rather than just OWN a big bagger.
 

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I can't help the grace and intelligence in those you choose to associate with is lacking.
Your friends being doofuses shouldn't keep regular folks who walk upright w/o tripping from riding the bike of their choice.;)
 

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Kitchen musta got too hot........

Blocking the blocked? He'll soon see that blocking is just half a solution. Does look like the heat is climbing though.


Do everything like your life depends on it. It could!
 

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This thread was just about a nice looking smaller bike that I found on line not about Goverment programs whatsoever:confused:

Sam:)
 

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Wade and Lick er Split---somehow so appropriate;)

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Should be a law that all freelance writers have to ride one of these for five years.
 

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This thread was just about a nice looking smaller bike that I found on line not about Goverment programs whatsoever:confused:

Sam:)
It's humorous how he complains about politics being brought up in one thread and then brings it up in others.
 
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