I think the electric bicycle, with pedals, is really cool, I'd love to have one. Haven't seen one in these parts in years.A local shop here, has a nice Ebike for $5,000.00. As a commuter it is great. The riding position is good. I should take some notes next time I am there. Local guy has been riding one for a while. He just bought another one for summer use, and will use the old one in the winter. What we do have here in large numbers, is electric bicycles. Some all electric, most pedal assist.
"Wage buying power" has been replaced with "Credit buying power"...Import 10's of millions of illegal/legal "immigrants" to drive wages down while increasing demand for everything...then replace/boost those depressed wages with "credit"..net result...a booming economy built upon a MASSIVE pile of debt...the few people at the top become INSANELY RICH while everyone else becomes a debt slave.Every consumer product has risen in price at a disproportional rate to real wages over the last 20-30 years as we have been in an 'hourly wage/ salary' recession/ depression for a very long time. Real buying power has fallen for the average person.:
Harley is scapegoating Trump...the truth is, you CANNOT build a bike in the USA, ship it to Asia and sell it at a profit...no way!Harley moving manufacturing out of U.S. to Thailand.
Just checked Craigslist, 374 used "Harley" listings..and that's a pretty consistent number...month after month.My Son Ron, just bought a $75,000, 2020, Ford RAPTOR and my Grandson has a $70,000, 2019. My younger Son Aaron just a month ago bought a new 2019 Ford F250 Super duty, with the BIG Diesel and lots of extras and spent $71,000 and change and my 2016 F150 was over $50,000--:surprise: I bring this up only to show that prices are completely out of sight today (My new F100 Ford in 1969 was $3,600) and this is why most Folks are buying used vehicles at heavily discounted prices, so it skews the published sales charts completely! There are probably more USED Harley's bought and sold yearly than total new bike sales worldwide, so the 'sport/ hobby,' is still very alive and well:grin:
To quote 450zuki – “Moderation is a wonderful thing; reduces the requirement of work like nothing other”:kiss:I guess my family and myself just like that 'new car smell,' extrapolated to include Motorcycles:grin:
To quote Oscar Wilde – “Moderation is a fatal thing. Nothing succeeds like excess.”:kiss:
450zuki, what bike do you have and ride?:smile_big:
I've never been able to plop down cash for a new bike. But good luck to you getting there, Miss M. I've got about halfway and just couldn't wait any longer.:surprise: :surprise: :surprise:If you can swing it while still being able to save money, why not? Life is too short not to get what you want. I'm only 26 and I've already purchased two new cars. I can never see myself plopping down $70k for a truck, but mad props from me to those who do! First new car was $16.2k and is paid off (it's now my rally car), the other is $17k and will be paid off in a year or so. The other two cars and the one truck in my garage were either stupidly cheap (used) or were free.
The bikes are all $1k or less Craigslist specials. I can't wait for the day I can enjoy the whole "new car smell" thing again, but paying cash and with a motorcycle.