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The Left right now is primarily focused on coming for our guns. They claim they only want "common sense" gun control but in truth their goal is clearly the total confiscation of firearms from individual citizens. But the "climate change" fanatics, ignoring all of the failed predictions of that movement over the last 30 or so years, are also coming for our vehicles. If some of these crazies had their way we would be reduced to a choice of riding public transportation or a bicycle, period. While the short term goal regarding motorcycles will likely come in the form of pushing for electric bikes, ultimately the nanny scolds will want to outlaw all of our two wheeled transportation. So many of these people lack the courage and spirit to try riding a motorcycle that they wish to deny it to those of us that enjoy that experience. Don't be fooled by those saying that they just want to "save the planet", their real goal is to massively increase the control that they have over every aspect of our lives, including what they see as the frivolous use of energy by those riding motorcycles. Make no mistake, the Leftist "elites" think of those of us that ride motorcycles as part of the same "basket of deplorables" that includes gun owners.
 

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That's socialism easily converted to communism in a nut shell and is exactly what has been taught to our kids when we weren't looking. So when they start voting and many already have, it's over. The United States our grandparents and parents fought for will be gone. One piece at a time. Just look where our President is now. The left is in full swing treason and half the country is giddy over it.
 

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Don't be fooled by those saying that they just want to "save the planet", their real goal is to massively increase the control that they have over every aspect of our lives,
Yes, but they gotta get rid of all those gun totin' "deplorables" first, or there might be some shootin' n stuff.
Me? I'm irredeemable so I got nothing to worry about...

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Motorcycles are the logical answer to getting around in crowded cities. The loonie left would soon realize a teknukle error if they tried to restrict motorcycles, and or scooters. E bikes would also work well around town.
On another group we have been talking about Greta and warming and so on. the split is almost 50 50 for those that are interested in doing something, and those not. On my red neck tractor buddies site, they are mostly against any changes. So they say. But you know darn well, no one is going to drain in their own smog.
There are some folks who would like to ban all forms of firearms and ammunition. There are always more than one, or two sides to every story. Lettuce not be surprised.

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I don't believe the environmental Nazis care a damn about climate or the effect upon how we live, other than to be a vehicle for justifying more and more control being turned over to government bureaucrats and those that have positioned themselves to lead the way on climate issues. They want control, nothing less. And very little symbolizes an independent spirit than being a motorcyclist. If they could limit us to public transportation, they would have a much greater degree of control of where we can go and when. Cars and trucks give us independence, and motorcycles even more so. Even aside from the Leftist thugs who want to rule the Earth, there are those that cannot avoid thinking about their own fear and unwillingness to engage in risky behavior, regardless of the pleasure that might accrue from such, whenever they see or hear about others willing to take those risks. I've never met a rider that at some point in life decided that no one should have the right to ride. When I was a skier in my younger days, I encountered a few people who felt skiing should be illegal since it is so risky (in their minds) and this never came from someone who skied, only from those watching on the sidelines and probably ashamed of their own fears. The Leftist control freaks would love to ban motorcycles, if nothing more than to show their power over other people.
 

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Good reply!
 

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Jim was one of the better expert road race riders in the early seventies. He was a good match for Steve Baker, the first US world champion. Both US riders from WA.
 

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Its all about power and control over others. You nailed it vito! The other problem those weenies have is that the people who enjoy riding, shooting, skiing, etc., are often people willing to stand up and fight for their right to enjoy the sport they enjoy.
So when they say to outlaw these things, to save us, is just "common sense", common sense tells me not to walk into a biker bar and demand all their bike keys cause "I want to save them." We don't need, and we don't want a political "savior" from the gubmint.
 
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