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Slow crank after a 2-3 seconds while cold Yamaha R1 08

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#1 ·
Hello Guys, I have been working to fix a starting issue I've had since buying this motorcycle about 2 years ago. First a little history.
At first my problem was slow crank/goes dead when bike is hot. Example I've been riding and I release the clutch to much and kill the bike. Its at 160+ F temp on the radiator. And I go to start it again and It cranks a bit but then goes completely dead. Every time I could get eventually started but I was worried at some point it would not start.
Tried new battery no go.
Tested starter seemed fine.
Replaced negative battery line to starter, fixed the problem.
I had corrosion in the cable I could not see.
This was fixed about 5 months ago.

So now to my recent issue I've noticed that while the bike is cold and its relatively cold outside it starts to crank great for about 1-2 seconds then gets weak and will kill all the electrics on the bike. Start trying to start it give it a second and try and start it still weak and will go dead again possibly. Eventually, it will start.
I just replaced the battery again as the positive terminal inside where it feeds into the battery was corroded and broke free. But I still have the same problem.
So looking for what might be wrong, what to test, what to replace etc suggestions.

A bit more on the bike its a 2008 Yamaha R1 with 55K miles on it. The only other issue I've seen is when it's really hot it likes to idle hunt between 1K and 1.5K randomly. Also at higher altitude going up a windy road and stopping at the top I've noticed that hunting is much more extreme 1K to 2.5K. Besides all that it runs great with just a slip-on exhaust replacement that is a mechanical change.
 
#5 ·
Every single time in my dealership I got to start and move an R1 - it's dead. Every. Damn. Time. Get it a battery with a ton of cold cranking amps. You can get a new battery, but if the CCA isn't an improvement you probably won't notice a difference for long. Most motorcycle batteries come stock around 150-200 CCA for some reason. This is not enough to get a reliable, split second start on most bikes nowadays. You want a battery with a CCA in the range of 350-450. You can replace the solenoids and all that junk but based off my experiences it won't do much compared to a really high output 350+ CCA battery. Solenoid relays aren't parts that really need to get replaced often, if ever - my Yamaha Virago has the same one from 1985. It starts up in a split second every time even with extra lights and bullsh*t on it with a 350 CCA battery. Give it anything less, you'll be lucky to hear a single crank. I'd reccomend looking on batterystuff.com ; they have filters that allow you to sort by your motorcycle type, and the CCA and price of the battery. You can find a 350+ CCA battery for around 100-140$, and I can guarantee it will provide quick start ups for as long as the 2-4 years the battery will stay good.
 
#6 · (Edited)
Never thought about that. The battery I just bought was a 190CCA battery so definitely in that 150-200 range. Ordered a MMG YTZ10S Z10S Lithium Ion Sealed High Performance Powersports Battery 12V 300 CCA from Amazon for the same price I got a AGM battery from Autozone which will be here tomorrow so we'll see if its a CCA issue.

I just tried starting it this morning and again cranks fast and hard for about a second then gets weaker and weaker till it does nothing. Let go of the start and give it a few seconds hit it again and just the click of the soldnoid is all i hear. Turned the bike off and back on, hit the starter, hard crank, and started almost right away. I think the first start attempt loosen it up enough to start is why it started so fast the second try.