Just a friendly heads up: be prepared for a boatload of opinions on whether or not people should remove smog equipment from a bike. Just saying.
Uh oh... hopefully it's clear I'm only asking how to do it not if people think it's a good idea...Just a friendly heads up: be prepared for a boatload of opinions on whether or not people should remove smog equipment from a bike. Just saying.
I'm not trying to put words in anyone's mouth...but it has been a heated topic in the past, as some see the practice as a middle finger to the environment. I'm sure you mean no harm my friend.Uh oh... hopefully it's clear I'm only asking how to do it not if people think it's a good idea...
You may want to check that you don't invalidate your warranty doing so.
Exactly, putting a slip on is one thing, removing the CAT is another, fine once the bikes paid for and out of warranty but I personally would like it and lump it till then, lets face it unless your having the bike tuned you really are just doing it to make more noise.No need to check, 100% guarantee if anything engine related goes wrong under warrantee they will point at that exhaust mods and deny the claim.
Actually my Catless Pipes are pretty mellow just a bit louder than stock, but Main Reason eliminated it was Heat, but also did Tune it with a PVCX and Runs far better, smoother and even better MPG .. No Argument on the Warranty thing as far as the engine goes, but if have an ABS or Wheel Bearing failure and they want to blame the Exhaust we will have to fight about those ..Exactly, putting a slip on is one thing, removing the CAT is another, fine once the bikes paid for and out of warranty but I personally would like it and lump it till then..
Lets face it unless your having the bike tuned you really are just doing it to make more Noise.
But to be fair its not something I would do on a brand new bike, with things like Harley Davidsons you can get away with it as long as they do the work, you mess with them you void the warranty, The guy with the GSXR is doing it for more noise, a slip on would give you more than enough noise, which you could get away with (talk to the shop) but taking out the cat is going to invalidate a bike warranty, let be honest if your bike engine went south your going to be in a bad place, the shop wont touch it, the manufacturer wont touch it, and all because you wanted some more noise, personally I would wait till the warranty was over and then stick it into a tuner shop so they can do it properly.Actually my Catless Pipes are pretty mellow just a bit louder than stock, but Main Reason eliminated it was Heat, but also did Tune it with a PVCX and Runs far better, smoother and even better MPG .. No Argument on the Warranty thing as far as the engine goes, but if have an ABS or Wheel Bearing failure and they want to blame the Exhaust we will have to fight about those ..
These are pretty much the reasons I choose a full delete system for my bike. Not only was it heavy (I shaved something like 14 lbs) but the bike runs super hot otherwise, and I worry about long-term durability. Additionally, Ducati is renown for having constant failures in the exhaust valve within the Cat, and indeed, mine seized up after less than 3,000 miles. The exhaust isn't that loud with the sound baffle in, but it makes just too much noise with it removed. Removing the sound baffle would have a bigger impact on removing the cat-con. I'm not too worried about my warranty. My 2 years is almost up, so c'est la vie.Actually my Catless Pipes are pretty mellow just a bit louder than stock, but Main Reason eliminated it was Heat, but also did Tune it with a PVCX and Runs far better, smoother and even better MPG .. No Argument on the Warranty thing as far as the engine goes, but if have an ABS or Wheel Bearing failure and they want to blame the Exhaust we will have to fight about those ..
I think that's actually the other way around now. Harley has had their hand slapped by the EPA, so they refuse to modify the exhaust (I'm not sure the parameters of "modify") at the dealership. I spoke with the service manager at my Ducati dealership about this, and he told me it was basically down to their discretion as to what they report to Ducati. Basically, if my exhaust mod wasn't directly responsible for a failure, he saw no reason to tell them that I had changed anything. Now, I didn't go with a full system with an upmap. That would be impossible for me to hide from the OEM.But to be fair its not something I would do on a brand new bike, with things like Harley Davidsons you can get away with it as long as they do the work, you mess with them you void the warranty, The guy with the GSXR is doing it for more noise, a slip on would give you more than enough noise, which you could get away with (talk to the shop) but taking out the cat is going to invalidate a bike warranty, let be honest if your bike engine went south your going to be in a bad place, the shop wont touch it, the manufacturer wont touch it, and all because you wanted some more noise, personally I would wait till the warranty was over and then stick it into a tuner shop so they can do it properly.
That is not the case in the UK with Harley Davidson, however the key part of what you said in regards to the Ducati dealership " If my mod wasn't directly responsible" A slip on you would get away with if your engine did go south then you just swap over the slip on. The problem with some dealership they will use any excuse to blame the customer.I think that's actually the other way around now. Harley has had their hand slapped by the EPA, so they refuse to modify the exhaust (I'm not sure the parameters of "modify") at the dealership. I spoke with the service manager at my Ducati dealership about this, and he told me it was basically down to their discretion as to what they report to Ducati. Basically, if my exhaust mod wasn't directly responsible for a failure, he saw no reason to tell them that I had changed anything. Now, I didn't go with a full system with an upmap. That would be impossible for me to hide from the OEM.
Absolutely, which is why I like to find a dealer I feel is willing to advocate for his customer. I worry that with the mega-dealerships selling multiple makes, any chance for advocacy becomes slim. We do have a law in the states intended to make the processing of warranty claims more fair (Magnuson–Moss warranty act) for the consumer. Of course if it is an obvious case of the customer's modification causing the failure, then he's SOL, but it does give us some protection from slippery manufacturers trying to avoid responsibility.That is not the case in the UK with Harley Davidson, however the key part of what you said in regards to the Ducati dealership " If my mod wasn't directly responsible" A slip on you would get away with if your engine did go south then you just swap over the slip on. The problem with some dealership they will use any excuse to blame the customer.