wow thanks for all the responses, I thinki it might have been my age (21) as well Sometimes when im looking at vehicles that gets in the way, when I went to buy the car I own now (03 eclipse GTS) the salesman laughed at me and made some of color joke till he saw my pay stubs lol. anyway im not letting this bad expierience be the only factor in deciding my bike I was already on the edge about ninja's the look isnt my favorite and my ex 500 was horribly cold blooded almost didnt pass my cycle test because it was a cold rainy day and it kept stalling through the intersections. That was just enough to push me over the edge. but I appreciate all the feedback and feel free to check out my new post lol Im always asking questions lol