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Hi People,

I need to visit the Troy, Upstate NY location for Road Test on 2May-1pm
Can anyone accompany me to that?

I tried HVCC and Adirondacks for BRC but they are booked till May end.
I am in real trouble here, as the dealer I bought the bike from also can't spare any of his staff to go with me, this being the busy season for him.

My shining new ninja 300 sits in my garage and me in my room above.
Both alone and sad without the other. :(

I am an experienced and very safe rider (>5years) in a different country.
I will pay for your gas and buy your lunch, ofcourse.

Please help.
Sandy
Malta NY
 

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This sounds logical. Is that allowed? I have to check DMV website. I thought there has to be a licensed rider in any case.
 

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I was going to say something, but then looked this up

If you drive a motorcycle with a permit, a driver who is 21 years or age or older and who has a valid motorcycle license from NYS or another state must supervise you. The motorcycle driver who supervises you must remain within 1/4 mile of you at all times.
That's the dumbest rule I've ever seen in my life.

But what about this?

The DMV recommends that you consider the Motorcycle Safety Foundation (MSF) Basic Rider Course. The course offers classroom instruction in addition to instruction on a motorcycle on a closed course. The MSF provides a motorcycle and helmet during the course. If you complete the MSF course, your motorcycle road test will be waived.
Most get their license from MSF, as the road test is designed to be extremely difficult to promote people taking the MSF course. I've had my permit for nearly 11 years, and have been riding, and I'm going to take the MSF to get my license some day when I get around to it.
 

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Several years ago I had the same situation. I feel for ya & if you lived near me I ride with you to he testing facility.
 

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Check and see if they take standby's at the MSF. They do here.
 

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Jersey had that law but got rid of it couple years ago or less. You could only operate (permit holder) while escorted with a licensed motorcycle operator. I took my motorcycle via trailer the day of my road test, took one of my Enduro's with me as I was going down the shore that afternoon riding in south jersey and didn't like riding a 250 cc all that distance so I would trailer it most of the times.

Anyway when I was a permit holder, the guy who was testing me didn't ask if I came with a licensed driver, I just waited in line for my turn to take the coarse. I don't know about NY, but NJ didn't verify how you and the motorcycle showed up at the testing coarse. I would think they wouldn't look into if whether or not you were accompanied by a licensed motorcycle operator, if they do I would say your licensed friend left to go get a bite to eat or something. It's not like pre school where they have to hold your hand while you wait for a parental unit to pick you up.
 

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Jersey had that law but got rid of it couple years ago or less. You could only operate (permit holder) while escorted with a licensed motorcycle operator. I took my motorcycle via trailer the day of my road test, took one of my Enduro's with me as I was going down the shore that afternoon riding in south jersey and didn't like riding a 250 cc all that distance so I would trailer it most of the times.

Anyway when I was a permit holder, the guy who was testing me didn't ask if I came with a licensed driver, I just waited in line for my turn to take the coarse. I don't know about NY, but NJ didn't verify how you and the motorcycle showed up at the testing coarse. I would think they wouldn't look into if whether or not you were accompanied by a licensed motorcycle operator, if they do I would say your licensed friend left to go get a bite to eat or something. It's not like pre school where they have to hold your hand while you wait for a parental unit to pick you up.
That was exactly my situation. I was living in Northern Illinois at the time & bought a nice bike & I wanted to get legal, but nobody was available to ride to the testing station with me so I went alone. No one asked who came with me or anything. I took the test passed got my endorsement & was on my way. One thing I've always wondered: Is your insurance any good riding without an MC endorsement? I'm just curious about that because a person would be riding basically illegally.
 

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One thing I've always wondered: Is your insurance any good riding without an MC endorsement? I'm just curious about that because a person would be riding basically illegally.
Probably not if they had to pay out a claim. They would be glad to accept your premium every year, however.

My guess is that buried in the policy somewhere there is a clause that the rider has to be legally able to ride to be covered.
 

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Not an option

Well, driving alone to the test location is not an option in NY. If you came alone, the DMV person won't test you. Also its your responsibility to bring someone with a m-cycle license, a car license and a car to drive the tester around who observes your riding from the car while you ride around the block.
 

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I am still not been able to find out, if I can take my bike in a trailer and someone with a car and a car license to drive the tester around. The DMV phoneline made me wait 15 mints before I hung up.
 

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I am still not been able to find out, if I can take my bike in a trailer and someone with a car and a car license to drive the tester around. The DMV phoneline made me wait 15 mints before I hung up.
I don't see why that would be a problem.
 

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Just a heads up. Even though you are officially NOT in the moment of taking your riding test, they will watch you sometimes ride over to the coarse and if you are riding through another coarse that has posted stop signs in the parking lot, and there is not a vehicle moving around the coarse, make sure you come to a full stop and put both feet on the ground. I recall my instructor way back then saying I didn't stop at the stop sign, look both ways and have one foot on the ground (which was completely false). It's just stuff that some instructors will do to bust your chops just because they feel like it.

I'm sure NY does the same type of tests that most other states do. One in particular is they want you to get up to 50-60 mph in between a certain amount of cones and then stop real fast at the last line or cone. Many people opp to take scooters to riding test.
 

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Are you testing at the DMV or a 3rd party tester? In Michigan they use a 3rd party tester and then you just take your results to the DMV. I just rode my bike to the test site and got there about 20 minutes before the test person got there. Turned out I didn't need to do that as she said half of the people do that and the testers just turn their backs.

-Not telling you to break the law, though.
 

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I am still not been able to find out, if I can take my bike in a trailer and someone with a car and a car license to drive the tester around. The DMV phoneline made me wait 15 mints before I hung up.
Just take bike on trailer, you have an appt already so you either loose it because not going with a lic person or for not showing up. I would take the chance showing up with it on trailer, but i am sure it is ok. Good Luck to you!
Let us know how it goes for you
 

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Thanks for your advice. Right now I am in talks with a couple of people who might go with me. If that doesn't work out then I will do the trailer thing.
In any case I will update on this post what happens. No there is no third party testing in NY.
 

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I don't see why that would be a problem.
I have a friend who learned to ride in Turkey, and is a pretty experienced rider in Canada.

According to him, the road test in at least one of these places involves three vehicles:

You on your bike, your experienced rider friend who is required to sponsor you on HIS bike, and the instructor in a car. The instructor dictates what you're supposed to do to your friend via a radio, who them communicates this to you, somehow.

Maybe in Sandy's country, they have some similar test, where you need a buddy on a bike in order to take it?
 

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change your test date?

Can you change your test date?

I took the MSF course and did not have to do a road test for NY. Take the first MSF course and forget about the road test.

On line there is some youtube videos to look at. I suggest "Learn to Ride like a Pro" Or visit his web site and buy a beginners' DVD. Both very good.

Here are some sites near you:
https://training.msf-usa.org/NYSMSP/street/enroll/Sites.aspx?tuid=cwip3nXixk/YVF1tD7sKtA==
 
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