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5.9K views 41 replies 21 participants last post by  Oldman47  
#1 ยท
Dealers will tell you just about anything to get you to use their oil. Mine tried to tell me I'd void my warranty if I used anything but HD oil. But this goes a bit far.
I'd have to see some test results before I believed something this ridiculous.:coffeescreen:

 
#8 ยท
A Harley riding friend of mine in Ca, from his first oil change on his Electra Glide always used cheap 10-40W Valvoline and the only thing he had to ever do was replace a noisy hydraulic lifter at 80,000 miles. probably $3 per quart stuff.

My HD's got only the best lubrication known to man at the time, at an average of $10 per quart.

I'm sure he laughed all the way to the bank.

Sam:biggrin:
 
#16 ยท (Edited)
My choice, not saying it is required for warranty compliance. The Victory guy hawking their oil as so much better because of heat reduction calling it "like coolant for the engine" is ignorant though. All oil does that to some extent especially in air/oil cooled engines. OK, I went to the online dictionary to define the word refraction, it refers to the "bending of light through a substance" such as light appears to change direction through a glass of water. Um, what does that have to do with reducing temperature in an engine with a liquid? I think I would rather have the heat radiated, as in out of the engine instead of bent through it.
 
#19 ยท (Edited)
...I went to the online dictionary to define the word refraction, it refers to the "bending of light through a substance" such as light appears to change direction through a glass of water. Um, what does that have to do with reducing temperature in an engine with a liquid?...
That particular online dictionary gave you an incomplete definition. The word refraction isn't limited to just light. It is also correct to use with sound and heat.

In steel mills and casting plants you'll hear engineers talk about heat refraction and refractory materials.

Refraction is a property of materials indicating their ability to withstand heat.

Refractory materials are used for lining furnaces, reactors, crucibles, etc.
 
#18 ยท
If I had a XR1200 I'd be extremely happy---I love that bike.

I'm on my 78th motorcycle/ scooter and I've never had a lubrication problem. I mean my bikes have never had a lubrication problem and I've used everything. This must say something about oil right??

When I raced 2 stroke bikes, for many, many years, the right oil could make the difference between finishing a race without seizing the engine up or loosing power on the top end. Some oil were very good lubricants but gummed the rings very easily requiring disassembly after every race.

In a violation of the Moss-Fergusson act, STIHL to this day requires their special "Ethanol fixer" 2 stroke oil to be used in their equipment or the warranty is no good. It is twice as much and I use it.

Sam:biggrin:
 
#39 ยท
In a violation of the Moss-Fergusson act, STIHL to this day requires their special "Ethanol fixer" 2 stroke oil to be used in their equipment or the warranty is no good. It is twice as much and I use it.

Sam:biggrin:
While it is true that you can use JASO-FB rated 2 stroke oil and still have a warranty, it is just easier to use Stihl oil and get double the warranty time. The dealer I had wouldn't warrant anything Stihl for any reason so I went to a different brand and dealer, never had any more problems. Not one time did I ever put ethanol in anything, and to this day, unless there is absolutely no choice, I never will.

I personally never had a Stihl product last as long as the warranty, even on commercial stuff. Of course, I did have a lawn business that went through a lot of heavy hands and lawns.
 
#20 ยท
Just for the record, heat can be radiated as a form of light - ever used an infrared lamp? So, refraction and reflection are, technically, valid terms when used with heat conduction/extraction. But, in the context of oils, conduction is, by far, the primary path, and ALL synthetics conduct heat a little bit better than oil cracked from petroleum.
 
#21 ยท
I mostly use Amsoil for all vehicles other than my Farm equipment and then I use Rotella-T, non-synthetic.:wink:

They have a very astute saying here in Hicksville: Earl is Earl and Tars is tars and Bubs is Bubs:biggrin:

Sam:coffeescreen:
 
#32 ยท (Edited)
Well seems today is Put Down Victory Day .. 1st Off OlDeadeye is Correct this Idiot had no clue didn't even get the Weight of Victory Oil Correct, Much less anything else .. Secondly, Owner Andy (Narrator) of Victory Owners Group Forum has gone on and sold the Forum and a Great Guy Personally and Kept the Forum going with some of these Videos as Enerrtainment, had no clue about Victory Engines or what made them tic .. A few VOG Forums members may not like that statement but I call them like I see them .. Now on my Point of View .. Am Betting Any Good Quality Oil within Specs and Proper Weight will do just fine and I hate Oil Debates and won't get into one .. Will Just state KevinX, Lloyd Greer, Rylan Vos whose names won't have meaning to many but they are the Gurus of Victory Power which thanks to them have 114 HP and 118 Torque on my Victory Now.. Recommend Using the OEM Victory Oil and Proven it to Stand up even even to Super Charged and a Turbo Power on a Victory Engine .. But Thanks for the Laugh on the Video anyway .. And Yes They Have Oil Coolers and EFI Standard Equipment ..



 
#41 ยท
I've worn a pair of HD boots for nearly 10 years. As I ride a Victory, I do get a little grief from friends, but they were really good boots that I just had to recently retire because they just plain wore out. If they still made the style I have, I would buy another pair:)