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Unfortunately, for me, at least, Indians suffer from the same fatal engine design as Harley-Davidson. Namely a single pin crank that is inefficient and prone to vibration.

" Because the rods can be assembled over the single 52mm crankpin, the massive crankshaft can be a rugged one-piece steel forging "


And dear God those Indians are expensive! You would think, with all that sweet sweet casino money coming in, they could sell for less. :rofl2:
 

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I didn't read every post on this thread, but wanted to comment on the OP. If you've always wanted a Harley, buy a Harley. Stop worrying about their motor not being perfect from your perspective. Life is too short to really want something, and being able to have it, but not doing it due to some minor concern. Otherwise you'll end up someday being unable to ride anymore and having to regret for your remaining years that you never did get that Harley. Personally I've never felt that Harley is somehow special because it is an American company. I've owned Japanese and British bikes, and right now my main ride is a Canadian product. Means nothing to me. I liked the look of the new Indians, but a few demo rides convinced me that I would never buy one. Trust me, you need to get that Harley while you still can.
 
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I want one with an engine that isn't inherently flawed. So, I won't buy one. Done. I'm happy with my asian bikes, but would be happier if I could buy American (built in Thailand)

HD can suck on it for all I care. They don't want my business.
 

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I am obsessed with perfection, or the pursuit of. That is why I have had 11 Hondas.
I have never owned a Harley, and at this point in my life it’s extremely unlikely that I ever will. And I can promise you I have never lost any sleep over it. I’ve owned almost all Hondas myself (13 of ‘em and one Triumph). They’re good bikes, but they’re far from perfect. Good engines, yes. Reliable, yes. Comfort out of the crate, horrible except for the Gold Wing. There is not a single one that I haven’t had to do something to ergonomically.

There is no perfect bike. There are bikes that are better for you than anything else, but that doesn’t make them perfect. What’s right for you is all wrong for somebody else. And more people in the US say with their wallet that HD is right for them than any other manufacturer. Engine technology doesn’t matter to most of them. Your idea of perfection doesn’t matter to anyone but you. Find what you like and ride it. Unless you’re building it yourself, life is too short to obsess about perfection. If you don’t like what they’re building, then don’t buy it - it’s that simple.
 
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