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What signal do you use, if any, to warn approaching riders that you have just passed a waiting police car or bike that is sitting on the side of the road waiting to catch speeders on his radar or laser? When driving my car I will flash my high beams at oncoming traffic and often get a sign of recognition that they understand what I am doing (but certainly not always). When riding, years ago I learned that tapping the top of my helmet was a way to communicate the waiting cop idea to oncoming riders, but I am not sure how many understand this signal. Made me wonder how many use this signal, or is there another way to clearly help out fellow riders from getting a speeding ticket?
 

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I do the high beam flash, not only for other motorcycles but for cars as well.

Did that for one speed trap years ago and an oncoming driver flashed an acknowledgement. As he passed me, I realized the oncoming car was an unmarked police car. They moved the speed trap very quickly. LOL!
 

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I don't.

It doesn't work. MC riders have got a lot on their minds, and safety is the number ONE concern. I'd rather that they pay complete attention to the road, and adjust their speed using their own judgment. Whether or not that's legal - is really their business.

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Since I ride on high beam, with a modulating headlight, there is no simple way to signal riders using my lights. I guess I could turn off, then on again, the additional light bar that has two lights on either side of my headlight, but that also is a bit unwieldy. My real question was: would you recognize a rider tapping the top of his head, or helmet, as a signal that the police are waiting ahead or would you think the rider is just brushing off the top of his head/helmet?
 

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Hand flat tapping the top of your helmet is what I've seen & done. I've seen it used in several states when we were traveling on the bike. I may be wrong but I think it's pretty well known.
 

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Hand flat tapping the top of your helmet is what I've seen & done. I've seen it used in several states when we were traveling on the bike. I may be wrong but I think it's pretty well known.
Are you guys THAT OLD? The ole' head tap is like the biker wave.. except it makes it obvious a cop is ahead! I use my buddy Waze though to know when to slow down ;).
 

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I make a dampening, "slow down" motion with my hand, and then twirl a finger above my helmet like a revolving light..... they seem to get it, and wave their thanks.......
 

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Why would we want to warn other drivers who are speeding and potentially dangerous to us that there's a cop down the road? I know, personally, anytime I've gotten pulled over, whether I've gotten a ticket or not, it's a good wake up call for me to slow down and drive better. Why not give other cars on the road that same opportunity? :)
 

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I make a dampening, "slow down" motion with my hand, and then twirl a finger above my helmet like a revolving light..... they seem to get it, and wave their thanks.......
This is what I used to do, minus the twirling finger motion. And seldom did I get a thanks. I usually got the "who are you to tell me what to do" look. I think it often made them speed up to prove, I'm "not the boss of them". :biggrin:
 

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There was some guy who got a ticket by a cop for $1000 fine for warning drivers about his location of his speed trap. However a Federal Judge ruled the cop infringed upon the drivers first amendment rights.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/02/05/federal-judge-rules-drivers-allowed-to-warn-other-motorists-speed-traps/

Flashing of lights is how it has always been done here. Though I don't really bother flashing on a motorcycle as most drivers won't really notice due to single bulb possibly. If they get pulled over it's all on them for not investing in a radar detector. All I have to say is our Escort 9500ix's stopped my wife's speeding tickets she would get every 2 years and when the red light camera's started making their way near my rural area (about 22 miles from me) I wanted to be able to take my 9500ix with me when I'm out on 2 wheels. Also picks up all the other DOT cam's so I know where their locations are and other 9500ix's marked locations that are uploaded to the database which can be known hot spots where they like to set up speed traps.

At night, early in the morning hours, they conceal themselves very well behind brush and evergreens. My 9500ix alerts me over a mile in advance at times a threat is near. Gives me more then enough time to watch posted limit and keep rpm's down so my pipes aren't waking up anyone (not that there is an ordinance in NJ) that I know of for loud pipes, just don't need any excuses made up by some cop to want to pull me over so he can preach to me about how he knows all the laws. Most of the time I'm 5-10 mph under the speed limit late at night /early morning (too many Deer like to play chicken).
 

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I used to use the helmet tap but I really think most don't know it. I started using the tamp something down with hand and most seem to get that.

We have a county mounty that parks in the same two places everyday and you would think people would get a clue but he's busy writing tickets nearly every time I go by those spot. I gave up trying to warn people there.
 

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Okay, I'm going to get some flak here but so be it. What's the deal with warning someone about an LEO monitoring traffic for speeders? Along the same line, what's the deal with radar detectors?

Either way, your mindset is your intention is to break the law hoping you can get away with it.

So, which laws do you decide it's okay to disregard? Speed limits? Seems like a good many think that's okay. Running red lights or stop signs? Probably not so many.

It's simple... don't exceed the posted speed limits. Then you don't have to worry about it.
 

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Well, I'll get some flack too, but.... I live in a town fed by scenic drives.... they are a joy to ride, but with a 45 mph speed limit, it can also be a gigantic, genuine agony to go through them at that speed.... they are usually deserted, and my bike and skills are quite good enough to handle those roads easily at 10, 15 mile per hour plus..... And the speed limits are set for cars, not modern motorcycles. In a word, I think the limits are set ridiculously low. Do most cars and bikes violate them? Do I violate them? What do you think? I have no problem warning other riders that an officer is afoot.
 

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Speed limit.

The number crunchers in some large cities, already know, if everyone drove at the speed limit, the current road system would not contain the current amount of traffic. The transport department in some places, deliberately allow the road to be over taxed. This is done to try and convince you to use public transit.

If I ride down I 5 in WA on a busy summer day, at the posted limit, I would get run over.
I pulled out to pass some slower vehicles one day, a grey pickup tail gated me, so I increased speed and pulled in front of the vehicles, and let the pickup go by. One of the vehicles I passed was an unmarked police vehicle. During our chat, I asked the nice young cop why he did not chase the pickup. Even had a young lady cop with him, and they looked like a family in a family vehicle.
I did not get a ticked.

Unkle Crusty*
 

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A recent Supreme court decision allows drivers to warn each other of speed traps.

I flash my lights and give the palm down-slow down salute.

Everyone speeds at one time or another so it's a courtesy to warn someone as far as I'm concerned, with the exception of a cage or bike that is very obviously endangering lives by drastically exceeding the speed limit.

It is also a safety issue because in many instances the COP is parked barely off the side of the road or around a corner, which can cause panic and an accident.

Sam:coffeescreen:
 

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Okay, I'm going to get some flak here but so be it. What's the deal with warning someone about an LEO monitoring traffic for speeders? Along the same line, what's the deal with radar detectors?

Either way, your mindset is your intention is to break the law hoping you can get away with it.

So, which laws do you decide it's okay to disregard? Speed limits? Seems like a good many think that's okay. Running red lights or stop signs? Probably not so many.

It's simple... don't exceed the posted speed limits. Then you don't have to worry about it.
I appreciate motorcyclists warning me when there's a cop in the area. You never know when you might need to stop and rob a convenience store.:rolleyes:
 

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Most of the speed traps around here are about making money, not safety. If it was about safety, the police would sit on top of a hill with their headlamps on so everyone could see them and remind them to slow down. Instead, they're just over a hill in the dark, where they have a better chance of writing you a ticket.
There is a small township that a local interstate passes through the corner edge of. There is no exit from the interstate into that township. In fact you have to drive several miles to the next exit in either direction and back track down country roads to get there. But everyday the only police car from that township is parked out on the interstate making money writing tickets. If he had an emergency call in town, it would take him at least 15 minutes to get back. The police from the surrounding communities often get there before he does. Seems like hes out writing tickets to cover his salary while others are doing his real job. ;)
 
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