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I have been considering buying recently but have mostly stuck to just browsing and reading online for the time being. I did visit my local H-D dealer however they had limited inventory and were unsure when their supply would pick up again. I have been calling around, in particular, to see about the Pan-Am. The dealers I have talked with mentioned the first shipments aren't supposed to come in until May (the current waitlist seems to be 3-4 people who have made deposits) and that most 2020 models are impossible to find. The issue with the Pan-Am is less of an inventory issue and more of a new product launch but I was just curious if anyone else had trouble buying recently. I know things are probably going to get better as supply chains improve but just thought I would throw this out there. Hope everyone is having a good week!
 

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I'm waiting on a motorcycle coming from Spain. There's a pandemic on, I expected delays, shortages, increases in costs and delivery complications.

Did they have any Livewires in stock, you should have bought one of those instead.

Having a Great week, getting in all kinds of riding.
 

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It's that way everywhere, with everything.

If you're serious about a pan am, you'd want to do what everyone be else does and that's put a deposit and wait, or start calling dealers across the country and be prepared to travel.

But yeah, that Pan Am is probably going to be unobtainium in the first year without connections, or extra cash.
 

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When I went to the H-D site just now, they don't even have an adventure bike listed yet so your shortage is certainly not due to volume of exports.
But a chat window did pop up from somebody anxious to help me navigate an inventory search. ... I ignored him, I don't need help finding deals on in-stock motorcycles that are so expensive they don't want to show the price..
 

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Yeah, I agree that the adventure bike is less of a shortage issue at the moment. I was thinking more in terms of the other bikes they have. They did have a livewire but at the current price and where the battery technology currently is I'm not too interested.
 

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You don't want to be a guinea pig for just 30k?
How could you lose, even if H-D went tips up tomorrow Livewires would become a rare collector item, and it's not like you're ever going to need an over-sized piston and rings for it.
 

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So far "real riders" who's gone on test rides and one that I actually know are blown away with the PA.......it's gonna be a big success IMHO, and perhaps I will add a lightly used and ridden one to my garage one day. :)
 

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So far "real riders" who's gone on test rides and one that I actually know are blown away with the PA.......it's gonna be a big success IMHO, and perhaps I will add a lightly used and ridden one to my garage one day. :)
Wait, does that mean you are waiting to buy a used one or planning to buy one and use it lightly :unsure:
 

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LOL I may buy a lightly used one eventually......as I am sure there will be plenty of them just like with BMW 1200/1250GS.
 

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Just took a look at the bike on line. Pretty impressive @ 150hp. for a V-twin. Without logos, Harley is becoming less and less recognizable. I do like the looks of the Pan Am though.
 

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Man, all I hear is gloom and doom about HD.

But the last 2 times I visited the dealer, no Livewire in stock. And then they supposedly have made a run of the Elvis lookalike,
sold out before they were even shipped, now these Pan Ams, 30k and hot as firecrackers as far as demand. I mean, WTF?
 

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My friend who took a good test ride on one, said it's the overall best engine he's ever had between his legs......he has owned and ridden more than a few bikes in his 60 years of life. ;)
 

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it's not like you're ever going to need an over-sized piston and rings

you will need a battery that nobody makes.
 

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Every review that I've read on the Pan Am and been pretty good, especially on the motor. As far as inventories, its been the same in the auto industry with low inventory. Manufacturers in just about all industries are experiencing or have been experiencing materials & parts shortages. This has been a primary contributor to inventory shortages and price increases across the board. Now its affected the lumber industry. Lumber prices have pretty much doubled this year, but I didnt know Covid affected trees. I guess any excuse to increase prices will do.
 

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I have been considering buying recently but have mostly stuck to just browsing and reading online for the time being. I did visit my local H-D dealer however they had limited inventory and were unsure when their supply would pick up again. I have been calling around, in particular, to see about the Pan-Am. The dealers I have talked with mentioned the first shipments aren't supposed to come in until May (the current waitlist seems to be 3-4 people who have made deposits) and that most 2020 models are impossible to find. The issue with the Pan-Am is less of an inventory issue and more of a new product launch but I was just curious if anyone else had trouble buying recently. I know things are probably going to get better as supply chains improve but just thought I would throw this out there. Hope everyone is having a good week!
There's a lot of demand everywhere for bikes, all brands. My local shops have cleared out most of their inventory. They have a few $30k models available. Looking at used bikes... well, everybody raised the prices by at least $1000 across the board! I had my eye on a used HD that was listed at $9000. Three days later it is advertised as $10,990! Slim pickins.

Perhaps later this year the equation will change? As winter approaches and the DemoratSocialists run the American economy into the ground, people will need to sell the bikes they bought with stimulus checks because they are now going to be expected to pay rent or get evicted. That's what my crystal ball says. Watch for bargains in the fall.
 

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I hope so.

I've owned one Harley in my life.
Bought it off a friend that had to, ah, take a 3 year vacation. Sold it back to him when he got, ah, came home, for the same money.
An 883. Mother of pearl white gas tank, skull and crossbones looking right at you going down the road.......had some great times on that bike.

Ya, the bottom falls out, they get down to 3or 4 grand, I want one of those big ass AMFs.

You know, the ones with the batwing fairings, the big panners, chain drive with the seat that is as big as a living room couch.

Ya, let the bottom fall out.......
 

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My local (independent) motorcycle shop owner told me all his used Harleys were bought back by HD.
Ya, you see that a bit, at the dealer level. Trade ins mostly. But they are usually late models, in good shape. As far as the Factory, the mothership, I've never heard of them buying anything back,

I tell ya, Harley dealerships, it's worth going there just for the experience.
 
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