[daanholtke]

Hey everyone!

Lately I have been fascinated by (small) vintage motor/scooters (for example a zundapp).
I've been doing some digging on buying one second hand but I have no idea where to start...
The biggest ''issue'' I am facing is that I am 20 years old and have no driver's license for a motorcycle in particular.
I am from the Netherlands and do have my driver's license, meaning I also automatically have my scooter/motor license AM. AM means I can up to 50cc and 4kW. I am really new to all of this so I don't really know where to look for something I like/ I can legally ride (without getting a new driver's license). Does anybody here have any advice on what to look for, what brand, what specifications, what models, etc? I am looking for something simple. I don't have the mechanical knowledge but would love to learn it though. Thus starting with something simple would seem like the best option for me. I would love to have some input! Have a great day nonetheless!

Cheers,
Daan

 

[Carbide]

Not sure of the laws in your country regarding scooters.
You'll likely need a driver's license regardless.

 

[daanholtke]

Thanks for the answer! That's what I am trying to figure out. I am looking for something with a top speed of 25 to 50km/h (because of the license). I am sure there must be some models that are targeted at this range right? I am definitely not looking for anything complex, faster or exotic. It's just for simple riding, going to school, and making some trips around the beach. Also to learn how to do the basics of the mechanical part.

 

[bweighmaster]

Welcome to the forum , Not having a license did'nt stop me from riding .... Get what you want , like .... you got to know how to ride before you can get a license .....

 

[Traveller11]

If it's not your daily rider and you don't need to depend on it for transportation I say find a used 50cc Vespa, just make sure the engine turns over. I like the idea of Vespa only because there are a good amount of aftermarket parts available and they can be customized. After you have it take it apart and start learning how to do your own work. The 50cc keeps you legal and later you can always move up to a bigger scooter or motorcycle.

 

[DannoXYZ]

Lots of support for Vespa as they've been around for centuries.

 

[OldNEET]

To be honest with you, it is depending on your weight. If you are weigh more than 80Kg, you got to step up to 125cc to enjoy motorcycle.

 

[Retired Guy]

I think if you do what you're talking about, you will be experiencing a lot of frustration. Your lack of mechanical skills and a vintage bike that may require a lot of attention doesn't make for a good recipe. I would say get a fairly new motorcycle or scooter, it will require enough upkeep for you to learn some mechanical skills and you can enjoy learning to ride it. After riding and maintaining a bike for a year or so, if you still want a vintage bike go for it. You'll have a little better idea of what you are getting in to. Just my first thoughts.

 

[bweighmaster]

Centuries ???

 

[bweighmaster]

Don't be discouraged , you will find if you look ...try to make good decisions , Experiance comes with doing ..

 

[johnny42]

Centuries ???

He's in the Netherlands, so those would be metric centuries.

 

[Bitterroot Bugler]

I think the best place to start is with motorcycle / scooter enthusiasts who give up some of their free time to teach safe operation to newcomers. These guys will have all the answers relevant to the Netherlands that you can think of - and a whole lot more: Brave Search

 

[ttouring]

Hey everyone!

Lately I have been fascinated by (small) vintage motor/scooters (for example a zundapp).
I've been doing some digging on buying one second hand but I have no idea where to start...
The biggest ''issue'' I am facing is that I am 20 years old and have no driver's license for a motorcycle in particular.
I am from the Netherlands and do have my driver's license, meaning I also automatically have my scooter/motor license AM. AM means I can up to 50cc and 4kW. I am really new to all of this so I don't really know where to look for something I like/ I can legally ride (without getting a new driver's license). Does anybody here have any advice on what to look for, what brand, what specifications, what models, etc? I am looking for something simple. I don't have the mechanical knowledge but would love to learn it though. Thus starting with something simple would seem like the best option for me. I would love to have some input! Have a great day nonetheless!

Cheers,
Daan

First

Hey everyone!

Lately I have been fascinated by (small) vintage motor/scooters (for example a zundapp).
I've been doing some digging on buying one second hand but I have no idea where to start...
The biggest ''issue'' I am facing is that I am 20 years old and have no driver's license for a motorcycle in particular.
I am from the Netherlands and do have my driver's license, meaning I also automatically have my scooter/motor license AM. AM means I can up to 50cc and 4kW. I am really new to all of this so I don't really know where to look for something I like/ I can legally ride (without getting a new driver's license). Does anybody here have any advice on what to look for, what brand, what specifications, what models, etc? I am looking for something simple. I don't have the mechanical knowledge but would love to learn it though. Thus starting with something simple would seem like the best option for me. I would love to have some input! Have a great day nonetheless!

Cheers,
Daan

A 250 cc is about the size to start on . Any of the Japaneese brands they are most dependable.

 

[OldNEET]

First
A 250 cc is about the size to start on . Any of the Japaneese brands they are most dependable.

I totally agree with you as I started with CB72 (54 years ago)

 

[Traveller11]

The one thing everyone is missing here is this is in the Netherlands. Laws are different and in most European nations you have to work your way up based on rider age and CCs. Over there you can't just buy a Road Glide and take off on it. Right now his license will allow him to ride up to 50cc. Also, I don't know specifics about the Netherlands but, getting a license in Europe is not just paying your $20 at the DMV and taking a written and riding test in a parking lot. The licenses can cost thousands of dollars (Euros) and you have to go through weeks of rider training with a coach. Once he can pass the test he can move up to lager bikes. It is a process.

 

[Norton John]

Hey everyone!

Lately I have been fascinated by (small) vintage motor/scooters (for example a zundapp).
I've been doing some digging on buying one second hand but I have no idea where to start...
The biggest ''issue'' I am facing is that I am 20 years old and have no driver's license for a motorcycle in particular.
I am from the Netherlands and do have my driver's license, meaning I also automatically have my scooter/motor license AM. AM means I can up to 50cc and 4kW. I am really new to all of this so I don't really know where to look for something I like/ I can legally ride (without getting a new driver's license). Does anybody here have any advice on what to look for, what brand, what specifications, what models, etc? I am looking for something simple. I don't have the mechanical knowledge but would love to learn it though. Thus starting with something simple would seem like the best option for me. I would love to have some input! Have a great day nonetheless!

Cheers,
Daan

I was lucky to find a 1966 Jawa 50 05 scooter last fall. 50cc of raw power with a 3-speed transmission. It is said to be good for 35 MPH. They are 2 stroke engines which may not fly in the EU anymore? I have no intention of taking it out on the roads around here, I will use it at shows and swap meets to get around.
Keep us posted on what you find and send pictures.
John in Texas

 

[Norton John]

First
A 250 cc is about the size to start on . Any of the Japaneese brands they are most dependable.

If you read his first statement, he says that with the license he has he can only have a 50cc or less scooter. I agree that he should get a license that allows for a bigger bike.

 

[bweighmaster]

I was lucky to find a 1966 Jawa 50 05 scooter last fall. 50cc of raw power with a 3-speed transmission. It is said to be good for 35 MPH. They are 2 stroke engines which may not fly in the EU anymore? I have no intention of taking it out on the roads around here, I will use it at shows and swap meets to get around.
Keep us posted on what you find and send pictures.
John in Texas View attachment 79216 View attachment 79217

Whatchya got hidin in the background there ?

 

[OldNEET]

Whatchya got hidin in the background there ?

Looks like Yamaha XS650 in French blue.

 

[Norton John]

Whatchya got hidin in the background there ?

76 XS650 Yamaha