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Hello all,

New here but been on wheels basically all my life and due to vertigo issues i do a vw trike the ladt 20 years my question is likely going to get better replies right here than a small traffic trike forum.

I know it varies by state and im in florida looking up state laws only helps so much and is very complicated and doesnt reflect what i see out on the roads.

So here goes, i see lots of cycles ranging from sport bikes to cruisers and in between some with more lights than the mothership fron zeta reticuli, all colors some flashing on the sides or pulsing brake lamps,

Some really wild and bright, to each their own, i respect it.

Some have way more than i run on my trike but im very curious what is actually "legal" and what is just being ignored by some LEOs who might feel bikes being seen are better than a smashed biker...


Thanks
cheers
bats
 

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Most of my riding is in the daytime so I just use my headlight turned to high beam which is noticed by all oncoming traffic and there is neither a need for anything else to be noticed, nor any additional cost. I also have an LED headlight which puts out quite a bright beam even in the daytime. Plus, I don't worry about any laws when I travel.

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The laws vary by state but here in Florida I started installing these TIR3 Watt 4 LED strobe brake lights on my bikes back in 2013 as an additional high visibility brake light. They work well, I haven't been rear ended yet. The one time I got stopped for speeding here in Hillsborough county, the Deputy let me off with a warning and complimented me on the flashing strobe brake light, he said it was very similar to the ones their motor officers use on their bikes. I just installed one on my Moto Guzzi and heres a video of it, and of one on my previous bike the Triumph Trophy that I did in 2014. The 2nd video shows day/night comparison. I was on my way home from work last night when two Can Am Spyders drove by me lit up like Christmas trees with front white LEDS and yellow and white LED lighting on the sides with white LEDs in the wheels.

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In many states (if not all), effects lighting as shown in the photo can not be on when the bike is ridden on the streets. Extra lights are OK if they meet the standard of white or amber facing the front, amber to the sides at the front and red or amber at the rear, to the sides or rear facing. Other colors can only be used for parking lot shows.

Statutes can be really hard to figure out - ask a cop what he thinks.
 

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Ron, you and i are very different, i do have concerns with laws for many reasons.
I do most of my riding after dark as i do not like heat and sun and being a trike im as wide as a car in the rear makes sense to have at the very least marker lights to show this,
I also have a disdain for inconsiderate drivers with poorly aimed and or highbeams led headlights blinding oncoming traffic, ive seen this too many times with cars.
If you blind an oncoming driver will you blame him for veering into your lane?

Zebra, the spyder guys might have thought your brake lamps looked like disco lights, ?

But yeah, i have seen lamps like your brake lights a lot, i like them because they do grab attention but not in a blinding obnoxious way,

So do you know are they florida legal?
I might want one in a center 3rd brake lamp.


Wintrsol,
Now you might understand why i posted this,
If i ask 10 LEOs what they think i will likely get 10 different replies, and in all respects to them i do not expect them to know every law perfectly in their head,
In the last week here in eustis fl about 10 square miles,
I saw a cruiser with a zillion blue lights, non police vehicle
I saw a cruiser with a blinding white flashing side led bar about 18 or 20 inches, painful.
A cruiser ripped by me last night with bright pink purple lights some flashing, another one had big harley logos in front and behind it projecting on the road.

I always believed across the board any color flashing was a nono and blue was a nono especially mixed with red, but i see bikes like that a fair amount,

So a big part of my posting this is while i do like my accent lighting ( purple ) unlike ron i dont want to ask to get pulled over, i just wanted feedback from others.

From what im seeing it would seem law enforcement cares very little about the lighting and guys getting stopped are speeding or showing off.

Thanks all,
Cheers
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Yeah, the LEOs often are ignorant of the laws, but it only takes one having a bad day ...

In my state, the rider's guide says you should flash your brake light before actually braking, to alert followers, so a flashing brake light must be legal. I put a flasher in the 3rd brake light of my sports car, because it is so small at the back, I wanted to be noticed. I also have bicycle LED tail lights added to the back of my Valk, which can be set to flash in differing patterns; they are at the left and right corners, to make my bike visually wider from the back. White running lights on either side of my windshield do the same for the front. I've still working out how to add amber lights to the sides; the reflectors are limited.
 

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I have been pulled over for some really stupid stuff however i have almost always owned specialty vehicles, trikes, kit cars my 69 corvette convertible,
Some LEOs just want a better look,
But a few have been in bad moods and i dont look like the straight laced cat that i really am,

I was in the car the other night behind a tadpole trike of some sort
I noticed what i thought were very bright red lamps on the backs of the front fenders,
They werent lamps just reflectors, but they made it clear this thing is a car wide,
Made me want to take a look at what reflectors are out there.

Sure i want to been seen and safe but admit i still i like my accent lights,
There is crazy cool stuff in the biker world for lighting just have to find it,

When daytona or even the leesburg stuff rolls around all kinds of xmas trees on ufos driving around, i like the stuff if not too tacky.

Next time i see an officer at racetrac all ask what he thinks of bike lights
 

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Zebra said:
Must be, some manufacturers are putting them on cage vehicles now. See Florida Statute 316.234, which does not mention the words Strobe, Flashing, or Continuous, which would explain why I have never been stopped for it.. I've been using them for 5 years with multiple trips across the SE to Georgia, North Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky and have never had a problem. I actually started using them after seeing it on another bike on a trip to the Smoky mountains, I was behind him and could clearly see from way back when he was braking, got the info from him.

316.234 Signal lamps and signal devices.—
(1) Any vehicle may be equipped and, when required under this chapter, shall be equipped with a stop lamp or lamps on the rear of the vehicle which shall display a red or amber light, visible from a distance of not less than 300 feet to the rear in normal sunlight, and which shall be actuated upon application of the service brake, and which may but need not be incorporated with one or more other rear lamps. An object, material, or covering that alters the stop lamp’s visibility from 300 feet to the rear in normal sunlight may not be placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied over a stop lamp.
 

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Hello to all 13 Bats !

DAMN ! that is the freaking most KOOOL trike I ever saw, and here in St.Pete and around the area, I have seen a lot.
Even H-D does not have anything as WILD and KOOL as this. I thought all trikes up till now looked, well lets say nowhere
as good as this trike.

I think at times when I see a bike so decked out with lites that in the dark it looks like something from Alpha Sentauri.
IMO lites all over the bike/trike are not needed, a real good LED headlamp and LED's for brake, tail and direction signals
should be sufficient. I do think that some feel the more lights the better but if they don't have good road strategy, that is
not going to help. I mean if you have 2 massively bright headlights and approaching an intersection, not slowing down
and you see the hood of the car rise a bit, you have to know he/she is gonna make the turn!. I do think the flashing LED
brake light is a great idea though, as a flashing light gets more attention than just a red lamp getting brighter.
 

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Thanks for the kind words, i have had another trike before this one and it was how to say it more refined but i too like this ones general look better, the body is wilmac style and trikes to me look best low and well raked out, old school,
When they are too high and short and or look like they were hack jobbed in a junk yard with no thought or flow i dont care for them at all.
My wifes calls this one our munsters trike.

It pretty much shows how much accent lights i personally wanted, i was talking about the ones with full disco light shows more as a point that
LEOs must not care much about lighting because i see a lot of mostly cruisers looking like ufos,

My issue with mega bright moden headlights isnt so much from bikers as i only recall cars doing it to me but some inconsiderate dork will aim them crappy and they really do blind oncoming traffic and then thats not safe either,
I am biased i have optical problems and light sensitivity issues.

I like the pulsing light show brake lamps but i have 4 tail lights so 4 doing that would look pretty darn busy..lol.
 

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My take on this....
I spent way too many years riding bikes that had piss poor lighting.
With the coming of BRIGHT LED lights, I am in heaven.
I'm not talking about the colored show lights. I'm talking about really BRIGHT headlights, and strobing brake lights.
I upgraded my Goldwing's lights to LEDs all around, as well as extra driving lights and brake lights.
For the first time in my 50 years of riding, I can actually SEE the road ahead, and be sure that people behind me can see me as well.
Are all my lights "legal"?
I don't know and don't care.
Haven't been stopped for any of them yet.
I'll worry about that if or when it happens.
One "legal" point that comes to mind is this.
In New Jersey, extra driving lights are, by law, supposed to be wired to the low beams.
What the F***?
Why would I want my really bright lights to go OFF when I switch to the high beams??
My driving lights are wired to the high beams.
When I switch to low beams, they turn off so they don't blind anyone.
Stupid law.
 

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I value all opinions but my thead had zero to do with headlights or modern leds over old stuff,
Or if cats care about breaking the law or not.

My thread was about accent lighting, and i fully get some guys find any of it cheesy tacky or whatever but about 7 out of 10 cruisers i see have some accent lighting, not all ufo xmas trees but its there, so someone likes it and those where the guys i was directing my questions at, perhaps they are all out riding and dont have time to reply. Lol.

I love all the lighting options we have led headlights and all...
 
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