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  1. General Motorcycle Discussion
    The Japanese manufacturers, have you all totally conned, bamboozled and completely hornswoggled. They have you all believing, that even the calmest of cruisers and touring bikes, shouldn't have shaft drives or center stands, because you might lose a few horsepower and some precious cornering...
  2. General Motorcycle Discussion
    I've never had a street legal bike without a centerstand, and my first bike had no sidestand. My older BMW twins seemed to have problems with sidestands in hot asphalt, or sand, or slight downhills. Of course, sometimes they had problems on centerstand too, so crashbars were functional. IIRC, I...
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