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Old 08-07-2009, 07:37 AM   #1
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I have seen a couple guys riding around Reno with the Lone Wolf / No Club rockers. I noticed the first guy about a month ago..he was probably 45-50 yrs old and his jacket looked like it was made by George Washington's wife. I saw the other guy yesterday, and he couldn't have been more than 20 yrs old, had the rockers on his ICON jacket and was riding a HD that still had the price tag on it. There are probably more out there, but I just recently noticed these two guys.

Is wearing the Lone Wolf / No Club rockers is becoming a new trend or has it been around for a while and I just never really took notice of it? I was thinking about putting these rockers on, but I really don't know if there is any code or un-written rules about it, and I don't want to unknowingly offend someone.
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I've been wondering the same thing. I've seen a lot of T shirts with the Lone Wolf/No Club logo on it, but never seen anyone wear one.
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It's simply a way to wear a patch without making clubs think you are trespassing in their territory. You don't want to add the bottom rocker with the state, since that may be taken as you are claiming that state as your own.

It's kind of silly really.
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It's simply a way to wear a patch without making clubs think you are trespassing in their territory. You don't want to add the bottom rocker with the state, since that may be taken as you are claiming that state as your own.

It's kind of silly really.
I am going to get a patch and a rocker that claims my street and my condo complex! I'll be the meanest one on the block.
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Old 08-07-2009, 08:38 AM   #5
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It's kind of like trying to make "civilians" think you are in a club, without offending the actual clubs. It's like playing dress-up.
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Old 08-07-2009, 08:51 AM   #6
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You don't want to add the bottom rocker with the state, since that may be taken as you are claiming that state as your own.
I would never put a state on there...I know that rule. Think anyone would mind if I added "SATURN" on the bottom rocker though? Or even, "URANUS"?
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It could be like "dress-up" for some people, but it may also be a statement to ride your own ride, not some group's. I myself, while I occasionally enjoy the company of others, am a lone wolf, always have been. Sailed by myself years ago single handed and like the solitude, and I see myself eventually doing long solo rides on the bike, too.

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It could be like "dress-up" for some people, but it may also be a statement to ride your own ride, not some group's. I myself, while I occasionally enjoy the company of others, am a lone wolf, always have been. Sailed by myself years ago single handed and like the solitude, and I see myself eventually doing long solo rides on the bike, too.

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Agreed.

Ive gotten involved with groups before and it always
ended up being like work. From riding with other people
you arent used to or entirely comfortable with or going
through the tedious process of having to make plans that
accommodate many people, then maybe having to ride
too fast or slow for your safety/comfort level. I had one
friend who I devloped jedi mind meld with back in PA.
If I couldnt ride with him, I went alone......no worries,
nice and slow....
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I always find it kind of ironic when people buy a mass-produced pre-fab "sign" to indicate their "individuality". Yeah. "I belong to the group of people that don't belong to a group of people."

Sheesh. I guess pretty much everything is commoditized in this, our current culture...even "rebellion" can be purchased for a few dollars.
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I always find it kind of ironic when people buy a mass-produced pre-fab "sign" to indicate their "individuality". Yeah. "I belong to the group of people that don't belong to a group of people."

Sheesh. I guess pretty much everything is commoditized in this, our current culture...even "rebellion" can be purchased for a few dollars.
haha!!! we've all got to band together to be individualists, right?
anyway, I was thinking the same thing, but I think I might actually get a T-shirt or something, just to have one
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It's kind of silly really.

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I always find it kind of ironic when people buy a mass-produced pre-fab "sign" to indicate their "individuality". Yeah. "I belong to the group of people that don't belong to a group of people."

Sheesh. I guess pretty much everything is commoditized in this, our current culture...even "rebellion" can be purchased for a few dollars.
I thought so too. If I am an individual, I need to join a group of other individuals.
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I thought wolves ran in packs??? Didn't know they were free thinkers.
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I got a chuckle out of someone asking if there were any rules or a code about wearing the "no club" and "lone wolf" rockers.

When it comes to this whole colors thing the only "rules" there have EVER been are those you are willing to submit to, or those you are willing to enforce.

Dodsfall said it best, I think:

"It's kind of like trying to make "civilians" think you are in a club, without offending the actual clubs. It's like playing dress-up."

There it is. Wear whatever you want to make the non-bikers give you the "look" and take a step back while you feel yourself to be a daring and devil-may-care 1%er. Heck, you can even grow a neatly trimmed goatee and get a tattoo (as long as it can be hidden at work.) It's all in fun and it's all about the image you want to create for yourself. But please do keep in mind that if you cross some of the real-deal 1%ers, you're going to have to either submit or defend if they bother to take notice of you. (Enforcing will probably not be an option.)
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But please do keep in mind that if you cross some of the real-deal 1%ers, you're going to have to either submit or defend if they bother to take notice of you. (Enforcing will probably not be an option.)
Can you explain this statement? I usually ride alone and I don't wear wear any "colors". I ride beacuse I like the wind in my face.

What do you mean submit or defend? I've never had any trouble or felt threatened by anyone else on a bike.
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I won't speak for Eye (no fun intended), but I think what he meant was that if you wear something that appears designed to create the impression among the uninformed that you are a member of some kind of scary motorcycle group, when in fact you aren't, there are people out there who are members of such groups who just might, if you caught them on a bad day and they happened to notice you, find it offensive. There are many stories of people being asked to remove a jacket or vest with something on it that offended someone. And in general, I think if that happens, you are probably best advised to do as requested.

That said, I never heard of anyone being bothered just for riding a motorcycle alone with no patch or pretentious looking apparel.

I'm no expert on any of this. Just relaying what I've always heard and assumed.

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I wear a black, armored leather jacket. No patches or anything. If anyone has a problem with that I'd be happy to invite Gaston Glock to mediate upon my behalf.
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I wear a black, armored leather jacket. No patches or anything. If anyone has a problem with that I'd be happy to invite Gaston Glock to mediate upon my behalf.
That's kind of what I was thinking.
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This whole "club" subset of motorcycle culture is so LAME.

It's like a middle school playground or some primitive African animal stuff. It's akin to walking through the woods and ****ing on trees to secure a territory, and getting in fights with the neighboring bears, only in the case of these "clubs" there is absolutely no point. It's like they have to fill the image of a biker gang hard ass to cover up the fact that they're really just not an interesting person.

I don't mean to point this as a personal insult to anybody, but I STILL don't understand why you can't just ride around on a motorcycle and wave to people and wear whatever you want. If you want to have a group of riders that wear the same thing to let others know not to take advantage of you, that makes sense. But what's with this "territory" thing?
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You will remove your colors and bow before the red sun or be defeated at the hands of my Bosozoku clan.
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A riding buddy of mine just bought that patch I laughed at him trying to be a bas aZZ on his stock 750 shadow ACE.
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This whole "club" subset of motorcycle culture is so LAME.

It's like a middle school playground or some primitive African animal stuff. It's akin to walking through the woods and ****ing on trees to secure a territory, and getting in fights with the neighboring bears, only in the case of these "clubs" there is absolutely no point. It's like they have to fill the image of a biker gang hard ass to cover up the fact that they're really just not an interesting person.

I don't mean to point this as a personal insult to anybody, but I STILL don't understand why you can't just ride around on a motorcycle and wave to people and wear whatever you want. If you want to have a group of riders that wear the same thing to let others know not to take advantage of you, that makes sense. But what's with this "territory" thing?
im no one percenter, but (correct me if im wrong) at least some are involved in the drug trade. im going to say thats what territory is about.
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Can you explain this statement? I usually ride alone and I don't wear wear any "colors". I ride beacuse I like the wind in my face.

What do you mean submit or defend? I've never had any trouble or felt threatened by anyone else on a bike.
JMark answered that and pretty much nailed it dead-on.
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"but I STILL don't understand why you can't just ride around on a motorcycle and wave to people and wear whatever you want."

I agree with your sentiment, and for the vast majority of the time you can do just that. But the reality of the world is that there are some groups that might on occasion take what you are wearing as a threat to themselves, their honor, their livelyhood, or their "family," even if YOU meant nothing offensive by it. For the most part, your attitude, experience, and level of respect will be evident to them, and even if what you chose to wear was offensive, they would understand your intent (or non-intent) and you would not be in much danger. You might get ignored or you might get a friendly warning. There are other times though, for whatever reasons, that you may just be met with an extemely brutal and violent situation. (I have seen, for example, someone that had some tattoos that resembled the local MC's logo, but was not a member, have them removed. He lived, but will never look the same again.) You may call it "lame" and you may not "agree" with it, but nonetheless it exists in a very real way and YOU cannot change it or make it go away. These things DO happen, and this isn't just some crud I've read about on the Internet, so I do hope you'll head what's been written here. I don't want to hear about ANY of you getting hurt.

And as for the fellow that bravely asserted on-line he'll defend himself with his Glock...I agree with that sentiment too. But dude, all I can say is that you might not understand the nature of the thing. You might cause someone to back down when faced with your weapon, especially when one-on-one, but don't think you have won. If you've made yourself a target for whatever reason, well...you have to sleep sometime....and you have family...and friends... But it's better, I think to just RESPECT, even if you don't like, right?
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It sounds like the Mark Twain club, because he said he would never join any club that would have him for a member.
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I thought so too. If I am an individual, I need to join a group of other individuals.
If you are in the group, you are no longer an individual.
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But please do keep in mind that if you cross some of the real-deal 1%ers, you're going to have to either submit or defend if they bother to take notice of you. (Enforcing will probably not be an option.)
I'll be sure to bow and execute a flawless curtsy.

It is genuinely sad to remember that there is a whole segment of the population so insecure as to the endowment of their genitals that they need to ride around and find excuses to beat the hell out of people, which seems to increase their self esteem if only temporarily.
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I'll be sure to bow and execute a flawless curtsy.

It is genuinely sad to remember that there is a whole segment of the population so insecure as to the endowment of their genitals that they need to ride around and find excuses to beat the hell out of people, which seems to increase their self esteem if only temporarily.
And which particular group of people would you be referring to?
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My jacket says USA down the sleeve and i have had a little lip about riding rice .

My answer is this . That USA does not represent the bike , it represents me . Im American Indian , that American enough for you !!

Putting rockers on your jacket has nothing to do with riding a bike . Image is over rated and that is what your looking for with rockers of any type .
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It's apparently like the Wild West out there, but it hasn't affected me yet. I acknowledge every motorcycle, Harley or not, and nod/wave to every rider I meet. I wear whatever colors I want and usually have my matching Jansport bookbag on my back as I travel 'round the state. I'm too young for that petty nonsense. Come on, bro.
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I'd think the whole "lone wolf no club" patch thing is incredibly lame. In fact there are no shortage of lame meaningless patches these days. I expect to see "lone wolves" with a ****load of dumb mindless slogan patches on their cut-offs too. Its not quite as lame as those with leather vests and cut-offs with "harley davidson" on the back.

I'm not part of any club or anything similar, so I don't wear colors.
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We are an untraditional group of Lone Bikers disorganized enough to form a non-club of like-minded individuals. We love to ride all motorcycles in all kinds of decent and indecent weather. We ride all walks of life and let live all Bikers. The Silent Skulls are all about lone freedom on two wheels and individual choices.



2. What is the Club’s History?

Silent Skulls just happened in the mid 60’s with 5 untraditional stray, lone bikers from around. For some unknown reasons, we crossed paths and clicked. Throughout the years, we gradually rode out to different parts and today we have members spread out over one earth on two wheels.



3. How many members are in the Club?

The true creed of Silent Skulls Lone Biker Club is "camaraderie with anonymity," our members like it that way. The club always maintains membership confidentiality. We are a club of Lone Bikers here as a road stop for lone brothers and sisters together.



4. What is the structure of the Club?
Silent Skulls have always had leadership without a leader. Our leadership comes from individual's respect for anonymity, philosophy of a Lone Biker and the wisdom of many years and miles on the roads. Our leadership is structured to be a friendly Lone Biker Club. As a whole, we represents an international camaraderie of Lone Bikers who choose to ride alone.



5. What are the requirements for membership?

We welcome and invite each and every Lone Biker into the Club. If you are not a true Lone Biker, the Club will not meet your traditional habits and you will stand out as a lonely biker needing attention. YOU MUST BE A LONE BIKER TO JOIN!



6. Do you have a prospecting period?

Yes, you must first self identify as a Lone Biker. This can take anywhere from several years to half a lifetime. When you, and only you are content with being a Lone Biker and are sure you meet our membership creed, you are invited to join.



7. Once I eventually join, do I need to get a Club tattoo?

Whatever! Many of our members are challenged in finding space for another one or puzzled with too much space for this one. We are a free spirited and free riding club of Lone Bikers who ride motorcycles not images. You ride as you choose and the choices you make are your own responsibility.



8. Is there a local Chapter or region I can join?

No. Silent Skulls have only one-world chapter/no chapters. It is because of our independent personality, lone attitude and freedom of choice in how and when to ride.



9. Does the Club have weekly or monthly meetings?

No. Between riding, working on our bikes and planning the next run we don't have time to organize, seek attention or publicity. We prefer riding alone. The Club does not provide a traditional service to members only a family presence. Ride, hang and enjoy each other's lone company. There are no obligations or commitments when you ride. You ride as you choose.



10. What if I join up, get lonely, and later want to leave the club?

Membership is lifetime so think carefully before joining. We are a Club and Family of Lone Bikers sharing camaraderie with anonymity.



11. I have noticed the Club patch looks prominent. Will I get pulled over
wearing it?

Common sense and knowing where you ride will have to decide! Our colors reflect our individual heritage as a Lone Biker and our commitment to be Silent Skulls. Think through your choices before joining.



12. Is the Club approved by AMA or anyone else?

No. There are no organizations or clubs who will "charter" one Lone Biker much less a non-club of one Lone Biker! We are not a traditional club and we don't have a home base. We are an untraditional non-club of independent Lone Bikers.



13. What does the ‘13’ stand for on the Club Insignia?

'13' always stands for 'M', the 13th letter of the alphabet. For Silent Skulls, 'M' represents 'All Motorcycles'. Our addiction to all motorcycles and the love for riding alone. Our 'M' is what Silent Skulls is all about... ride alone... ride till you bone.





After you read all the website and you still have questions then you are not a Silent Skull Lone Biker.

http://www.silentskulls.com/
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Man, It says they were founded in '65, but they could've at least updated their website since then!
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I checked out their site out of curiosity... $235 is a big fee to not belong to a club. And their "SAT" makes no sense... the more points the better but one of the questions is "do you prefer to be in a group"... and several others are questions that I would not want answered "yes" if I were looking for members for my club. I guess I'm not a lone biker by their standards.
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Allrighty then after not reading that which is not posted i can not say what i am or am not . Im kind of a smipelton but im not paying dues to be a non member of a non club er something like that .


Im a person who rides a motorcycle , i reckon thats close enough to any discription ill need

The only thing i " belong " too is my wife , kids and grand kids . All others are tresspassing unless invited . Hey i like that line
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Why go through all the trouble to ride alone? The best part of going alone is you can do what you want when you want.
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I love lone riding, but I wouldn't mind leaning in with a group of random riders just riding together for kicks or what have you. I'm not ever going to go as far as to tattoo some alliance on my spine but I'm always up for some friendly socializing.
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It's apparently like the Wild West out there, but it hasn't affected me yet. I acknowledge every motorcycle, Harley or not, and nod/wave to every rider I meet. I wear whatever colors I want and usually have my matching Jansport bookbag on my back as I travel 'round the state. I'm too young for that petty nonsense. Come on, bro.
Oh man, thanks for the chuckle!

Either you have a very dry sense of humor, or you really don't know what "colors" are, do you? I swear my face hurts from smiling over that "Jansport" comment. Bless your heart.
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Old 08-12-2009, 11:46 PM   #40
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Either you're referring to the definitive version of the word or you're referring to some apparel or signature trade of the clubs. I originally took it at the time as the actual colors, but I forgot most of every HD club only wears black so...yeah, excuse me on that one.
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