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Old 06-22-2009, 12:06 PM   #1
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So, I know many scooters are simply incapable of going at highway speeds. I also know some U.S. States have legal minimum CC requirements for a scooter to go on the highway. All that said, what scooters do you know of that are highway-worthy? And by highway worthy, I mean capable of sustained 65mph speeds for long trips without burning up the motor.

I'm anxious to find out. Evidently it's not common practice to make available any sort of maximum speed information, cruising speed information or acceleration information.
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Old 06-22-2009, 12:41 PM   #2
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I think anything with a 250+ CC engine should be able to make highway speeds. I don't know if I would be comfortable enough to ride any distance on the interstate with a 250 though.
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Old 06-23-2009, 12:30 AM   #3
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Keep in mind that there are scooters like Suzuki Burgman and Honda Silverhawk, Piaggio and others that are fully capable of extended hwy travel. Might need to discuss just what you are calling a scooter.
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:42 AM   #4
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I think most states have a 250cc minimum. Its not the just the speed, its the wind. Trying to ride a little scoot is a handful on the interstate. You kinda need something with some mass to it. Most of the 250cc scoots just dont have it.

Some of the interstate capable scooters would be:

Yamaha Majesty or Morpheous
Suzuki Bergman
Honda Silverhawk
Piaggio X9 & BV500
Kymco Xciting 500

The only exception I can think of would be the 250cc Vespa Grand Tourismo. That little thing HAULS for a 250cc scoot. I think it tops out at around 70mph or so. They also have a 300cc version of the GT now.
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Old 06-24-2009, 06:44 AM   #5
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I would add the Honda Helix. I have heard, talked to owners and read many stories on how they take them on long trips (cross country even) without a hicup.

Now my wife has one and has had it up past 70 for short spurts on the highway. She has no desire for long distance riding (highway anyway) on her helix, but it is quite capable of it.

Last year of production was 2007.
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Old 06-24-2009, 06:46 AM   #6
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Is this the Silverwing?
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Old 11-02-2009, 03:48 PM   #7
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The Yamaha Majesty 400 does a great job on hiway cruises 70-80 runs 110 I have 7,000 miles on mine no problems
had a goldwing before. It has fuel inj.
65-70 mpg Insur. cost $85 per yr.
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Old 11-02-2009, 03:55 PM   #8
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OOPS...SORRY...
yes...silverwing...not silverhawk
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Old 11-02-2009, 04:46 PM   #9
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I know some states have a minimum wheel size.

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Motorcycle requirements:

* Total wheel and tire diameter of 14 inches or more. §60-636
* Engine rated capacity of 45 cc or more. §60-636
* Must have a permanent and regular seat attached. §60-6,307
* If carrying a passenger, must be equipped with proper seating and footrests for the passenger. §60-6,307
* Handle bars no more than 15 inches above the mounting point. §60-6,307
* All operators and passengers must wear helmets. §60-6,279
* Tire requirements. §60-6,250, §60-6,252
* Must be equipped with a brake adequate to control the movement of and to stop and to hold such motorcycle. §60-6,244
* Must be equipped with a horn in good working order capable of emitting sound audible under normal conditions from a distance not less than two hundred feet. §60-6,285
* Must be equipped with a muffler in good working order and in constant operation to prevent excessive or unusual noise or annoying smoke. §60-6,286
* Must be equipped with lighted front and rear lamps; the taillight must be red. §60-6,220
* Must have a rear license plate. §60-3,100
* Not required to have a signal light. §60-6,162
* M anufacturer's S tatement of O rigin (MSO) CANNOT indicate off-road use only. The manufacturer CANNOT have designed the vehicle as off-road, regardless of whether the off-road disclaimer appears on the vehicle's MSO . §60-339
* Must display both the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (DOT) and Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Certification decals.
That's what the Nebraska DMV lists as requirements to be highway legal for motorcycles / scooters.
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Old 11-02-2009, 05:28 PM   #10
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I rode a Kymco Grandvista 250 on the highway with no problems, that was one fast scooter, You can hit 85mph quick with no mods straight from the factory
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In NY, anything that goes slower than 35-40MPH is considered a class B Motorcycle and not hiway legal. CC size and wheel size have nothing to with it. I have a 1998 Italjet 50cc & a 1964 Vespa Allstate 125cc and both are reged as Class B and do not even require a MC licence. But please dont let them know that they do about 50 or so! If its new it all depends on what the manufacture has had it certified as. I bought a Aprilia 150 and had to get a MC licence cause it went 70mph. My 150cc 60mph Genuine Stella is considered a Motorcycle ny NYS and requires a MC licence to ride as well, even thogh it has 10 inch wheels and looks almost like my 50cc & 125cc. Check with your states DMV for the low down.
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Old 06-01-2010, 04:35 PM   #12
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250cc minimum on most major highways in america
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Not In Ny.
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There is usually a requirement of 14in diameter wheels too, I believe, I know there is here in Nebraska.

edit: Which I guess I posted above a long time ago, heh.
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what about my nh80? haha
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Old 06-26-2010, 09:06 PM   #16
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In SD, if it is over 49cc, it is considered a motorcycle and the rider needs a motorcycle license. Under and its a bicycle.
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Old 07-05-2010, 01:12 PM   #17
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I would add the Honda Helix. I have heard, talked to owners and read many stories on how they take them on long trips (cross country even) without a hicup.

Now my wife has one and has had it up past 70 for short spurts on the highway. She has no desire for long distance riding (highway anyway) on her helix, but it is quite capable of it.

Last year of production was 2007.
Then there was Ed Otto. He rode a Helix to a very high finish in a late 90's Iron Butt.

http://www.maxi-scoots.com/postnuke/...ewtopic&t=6802

It's worth a read.

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Old 07-16-2010, 05:31 PM   #18
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As most have stated the 250cc would be the smallest but it does vary by state. Only the "Maxi" Scooters qualify:

Elite 250 (depends on state)
Helix (depends on state)
Bergman
Silverwing
Majesty
Piaggio MP3 (this one would be interesting to ride as it has 2 wheels on the front)
Piaggio BV Tourer 250/500 (250 would depend on state)
Vespa GTS300
Sym RV250 (depends on state)
Kymco People 250 (depends on state)
Kymco Downtown 300i
Kymco Xciting 500Ri

I'm sure there is some chinese junk that would do it, but riding on the highway is scary as is without risking your life with that Garbage.
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SC over 49cc requires M license. I really thought about getting one
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I believe in michigan as long as you can go the minimum speed limit you can drive on the highway.
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Old 05-29-2011, 10:32 PM   #21
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I think anything with a 250+ CC engine should be able to make highway speeds. I don't know if I would be comfortable enough to ride any distance on the interstate with a 250 though.
My 200cc enduro can do sustained 65mph without redlining rpm. Specifically I am 5'10 @ 220 pounds. To do this I had to replace the front and rear sprockets, air intake, exhaust and rejet the carb. I then have to kiss the handle bars (ok not quite) and make sure my knees and elbows are as far in as possible (wind drag is the only thing keeping me from going faster).

I was doing >60 in 4th today up an incline and yesterday I did quite a distance at 65. 65 is basically top speed now and hills do give it some issues maintaining that speed (based on the grade, mild hills are not a problem).

A 250 would have a much easier time doing this, especially with moderate to steep hills, it would give you some buffer room to get out of the way if you need to while doing 65 (the 200 I have basically has nothing left so if I have to go I cant).

To the OP: is there a reason you are looking at a scooter instead of a motorcycle? If it is an age/license issue you may find that the caps for what defines a scooter are too low for what you want. I also know that in CA it is illegal to modify scooter/moped exhaust in a way that increases the noise it outputs (which generally nixes high-flow exhausts), they are severely limited in terms of power, and a whole bunch of other issues - generally if its a scooter in CA its barely city street worthy and in no way will they be both legal and freeway worthy. Other states may or may not have similar restrictions.
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