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Old 09-21-2007, 02:38 PM   #1
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Hi, I'm feeling like I want do an oil change soon. Where do you folks buy your motorcycle oil -- besides the dealer? Will motorcycle shops sell them expensively? Can I buy motorcycle oil at Wal Mart of something like that. How about filters?

It seems a google search about motorcycle oil brings up motorcycle oil change kit for about $40 (3 quarts of moto oil and filter, oil filter gasket, drain plug gasket, etc.) or papers about car vs. motorcycle oil. (BTW, I think I'm convinced I need motorcycle oil and not car oil). Is about $40 good for an oil change kit? Here's the fleabay link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/YAMAH...QQcmdZViewItem

I'd love to just drop it off at the dealer but I don't have time to go there and wait. I've done oil changes on cars before -- not a big deal -- and for the motorcycle, there's not as much danger of getting under it.

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got them from local dealer since I don't buy many, so eventhough it might be expensive but it's only a few bucks. That way I can avoid the hassle of waiting for ship and shipping charge.

I was told that motorcycle oil can take way higher RPMs than car oil so I've been using motorcycle oil since otherwise the engine might get burnt.
BTW $40 is about 3 oil change for me , I only replace the drain plug gasket when it's not good, and doesn't oil filter gasket come with the filter itself?

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got them from local dealer since I don't buy many, so eventhough it might be expensive but it's only a few bucks. That way I can avoid the hassle of waiting for ship and shipping charge.

I was told that motorcycle oil can take way higher RPMs than car oil so I've been using motorcycle oil since otherwise the engine might get burnt.
BTW $40 is about 3 oil change for me , I only replace the drain plug gasket when it's not good, and doesn't oil filter gasket come with the filter itself?

YF
Thanks. I called the place I got my bike from. They said I need 3 quarts at $5/quart and $10 for the oil filter. For another $20, they'll do it and it takes about 20 minutes once they get you in. I'd really like to do it myself. I have the stuff for changing my car oil and hope to reuse it for the bike. Plus, it gives me more excuse to hang out with the bike.

I figure the oil change kit was just a convenient package that they put together and sell for profit -- I figured, it wasn't that much more expensive than buy the oil and filter myself. I just don't want to pay $10 shipping and then wait a week.

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Old 09-21-2007, 08:07 PM   #4
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I just picked up oil and a filter for my Virago. $8 for the filter (it's a common one) fron the dealer. I picked up some synthetic motorcycle oil from the car parts store. I know a lot of riders like Rotella (Shell). Make sure you get to the specs required by your manufacturer. Don't get energy saving oil, it's bad for your wet clutch.

We need to get CB750F to put up a sticky post with the links for the oil articles. (Hint, hint)
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Dennis, my friend's '07 Harley Softtail manual says that if he can't get Harley oil, use Diesel engine oil. I use Rotella T in my C90T Suzuki, and it works really great, keeps the engine noise down and keeps it relatively cool. I don't know what kind of motorcycle you have, but my C90T takes 4.8 quarts with an oil filter. I always buy my oil filters from the Suzuki dealer, because I tried once to get one from O'Reilly's. It had the wrong kind of threads on it, and I had to bring it back and go to Suzuki for one that would work.
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Alright, I'll put it up.

http://www.motorcycleanchor.com/moto...to/mc_oil.html

I got my last filter for the Kawie at a dealer, it was around 10 bucks and change and I bought my oil there. As soon as the warrenty is out I'll probably still buy the Kawasaki oil filters but I'll probably go with Rotella. I buy Fram filter for the Raptor as it gets changed often. They can be bought at Wal Mart.
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Dennis, I get all my supplies at RJ's Motorsport in Nashua. They have a website and a good bunch of people that I have liked doing business with for over 10 years now on all bikes from motorcross to sportbike to cruiser, check them out.
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I get my filters from the dealer, or mail order from a discount dealer, as I like oem filters.
Oil is available from some Amsoil dealers on this forum, such as OilDoc.
I would recommend, as they do, Amsoil, as the finest quality oil for a bike.
Diesel oil is fer diesels.
But suit yourself.
Just the right kind (formula) of any fluid for a bike is important.
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I just ride over to starting line and have them do it, only because I would rather they take care of the waste oil, and not have to deal with the waste myself.
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Here I take the waste oil to the auto store or also I found that jiffy lube across the street will take it.
I have an old jug that I have used for waste oil for 20 years or so.
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My problem would be me spilling. Since my first cousin happens to be named Murphey L., I'm guarenteed to spill it! Don't want that, so I'll let them take care of it.
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I used car oil in my old bike, but only if it did NOT say "energy conserving" which can cause clutch slippage. Worked fine.

With my new one I use motorcycle oil because, well, I want to pamper it.

I've seen motorcycle oil filters at auto parts stores, which I can only imagine are cheaper than dealerships. Whether or not you trust your bike to FRAM is another question entirely.
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Just buy a case of filters at your local NAPA store.
You will get a good price and the filters are made by WIX.
As three of my street bikes all use the same filter, case purchases make sense.
The ones on the right, come with new gaskets.



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Dennis, I get all my supplies at RJ's Motorsport in Nashua. They have a website and a good bunch of people that I have liked doing business with for over 10 years now on all bikes from motorcross to sportbike to cruiser, check them out.
Yup. RJ's is all right. I go there once in a while -- nice bunch of people. I like to shop for accessories, helmets, gloves, etc. I used to buy oil and filter from them. I found some good oil and filters and now can get them from Walmart. I use Shell Rotella T 5w-40 and SuperTech 7317 on my Vstar 1300. -- $23 for the oil and $2 for the filter. I bought Yamaha crush rings for $2.

I have Amsoil and Amsoil filter right now; next oil change will be the Rotella.

My FZ6 uses same oil, filter, and crush ring -- makes it easy to buy.

I have a 15 gallon oil container. I use it for cars and bikes. I take it to our town dump once in a while to get rid of it (I do it same time I'm taking our garbage so it works out well.).

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I have a 15 gallon oil container. I use it for cars and bikes. I take it to our town dump once in a while to get rid of it (I do it same time I'm taking our garbage so it works out well.).

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OOOHHHHH noooooooo....do not dispose of your oil in a dump!!! Not only can it cause a fire to burn as it drains down into the dump floor....it can also poison the water table if it gets through the liners.....WE have a dump...that is huge...that was on fire and I think still is .....for over two or three years....never dump caustic materials into the dump...take them to a hazardous waste area ...

Not sure if you have this available.. but local places will take used oil for free and you just have to take whatever you brought it in home with you....places like autozone etc....and once or twice a year, the health dept sponsors a hazardous waste dump area...at a fairgrounds...they take antifreeze, all sort of liquids, paint cans, aerosole cans, appliances, etc...

Think a little green....
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OOOHHHHH noooooooo....do not dispose of your oil in a dump!!! Not only can it cause a fire to burn as it drains down into the dump floor....it can also poison the water table if it gets through the liners.....WE have a dump...that is huge...that was on fire and I think still is .....for over two or three years....never dump caustic materials into the dump...take them to a hazardous waste area ...

Not sure if you have this available.. but local places will take used oil for free and you just have to take whatever you brought it in home with you....places like autozone etc....and once or twice a year, the health dept sponsors a hazardous waste dump area...at a fairgrounds...they take antifreeze, all sort of liquids, paint cans, aerosole cans, appliances, etc...

Think a little green....
Totally LOL! Hey, I'm completely with you my friend -- I really try to think green as much as I can. When I said I take it to the dump, I mean our dump has a bin for used oil that I pour my used oil into. They have one for antifreeze too.

I cringe too when someone says they dump it into the ground in their backyard

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I buy my stuff from a farm and fleet store (you guys in the upper midwest will know Mill's Fleet Farm). I see their ad in today's paper has Amsoil cycle oil on sale this week. Looks like it is time to buy.
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I cringe too when someone says they dump it into the ground in their backyard
That makes me cringe, too. Mainly because I used to work for an environmental testing lab where my main job was to extract oil (and other materials) from water samples. You'd be surprised how much nasty junk water can hold and still look clear!
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I buy my stuff from a farm and fleet store (you guys in the upper midwest will know Mill's Fleet Farm). I see their ad in today's paper has Amsoil cycle oil on sale this week. Looks like it is time to buy.
What was the price per quart and which weights?

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Totally LOL! Hey, I'm completely with you my friend -- I really try to think green as much as I can. When I said I take it to the dump, I mean our dump has a bin for used oil that I pour my used oil into. They have one for antifreeze too.

I cringe too when someone says they dump it into the ground in their backyard

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Oh oKay...you about freaked me out on that one! LOL
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What was the price per quart and which weights?

TIA,

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Amsoil is 0W40, 10W40, 20W50, $8.99/qt. The ad shows Valvoline blended cycle oil on sale too. 20W50 and 10W40 for $3.99/qt.

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I just bought my bike and need to do an oil change on it. I am not sure what type of oil to use, conventional motorcycle oil or synthetic. It is a 2000 Suzuki Marauder. Thanks for any help.

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I use Shell Rotella-T 5W-40 Synthetic in my Marauder and am pretty happy (MIGHT try AMSOIL this summer, but I'm not sure yet). I bought my filters off Amazon.com because I wanted Purolator and couldn't find any that fit my bike locally (**** you Suzuki for using a proprietary thread!).
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Primalmu, I found these for your scooter:

[2]
These Oil Filters
have 20 x 1mm threads,
11 psi by-pass valve,
anti-drain back valve.

This is a proprietary Suzuki
thread, and no high performance
filters are made for 20mmx1mm
threads.
Available filters include:

AMSOil SMF 109
Bike Master 314-0025
Champion PH7016
Cycle Power 314-1919
Emgo 10-55662
Emgo 10-55660
Fram PH6018
Hi-Flo HF138
J.C.Whitney ZX063166P
K&N 138
NAPA 1359 / WIX 51359
NAPA PS7937
Parts Unlimited
Per-Form J-509
ProPart 01-0029
Purolator ML16818
STP SMO-18
Suzuki 16510-03G00-X07
VESRAH vsf-3009
WIX 57937

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i always use local stockist and would use ebay if stuck .
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Primalmu, I found these for your scooter:

[2]
These Oil Filters
have 20 x 1mm threads,
11 psi by-pass valve,
anti-drain back valve.

This is a proprietary Suzuki
thread, and no high performance
filters are made for 20mmx1mm
threads.
Available filters include:

AMSOil SMF 109
Bike Master 314-0025
Champion PH7016
Cycle Power 314-1919
Emgo 10-55662
Emgo 10-55660
Fram PH6018
Hi-Flo HF138
J.C.Whitney ZX063166P
K&N 138
NAPA 1359 / WIX 51359
NAPA PS7937
Parts Unlimited
Per-Form J-509
ProPart 01-0029
Purolator ML16818
STP SMO-18
Suzuki 16510-03G00-X07
VESRAH vsf-3009
WIX 57937

Eric
Yep, that's the list I used to look for compatible filters. After some research I settled on the Purolator ML16818, which I had to order online because I couldn't find them locally.
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Amsoil is 0W40, 10W40, 20W50, $8.99/qt. The ad shows Valvoline blended cycle oil on sale too. 20W50 and 10W40 for $3.99/qt.
I didn't realize Farm and Fleet was carrying Amsoil. Is that new? For $8.99/qt it's a great deal. I have been paying almost $11.00/quart at Autozone for the Mobil1. Farm and Fleet didn't previously carry the 20W50 Mobil1 either last I checked.
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My problem would be me spilling. Since my first cousin happens to be named Murphey L., I'm guarenteed to spill it! Don't want that, so I'll let them take care of it.
I learned a simple trick years ago. Cut a plastic garbage bag down one side and the bottom and use it as a drop cloth while changing the oil. Any little drips (like when the wind blows the oil stream outside the drain pan) can just be picked up with the bag.
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dods, my spill would happen when I am transferring the oil to containers that I could take to a proper disposal site, usually involving dumping it ALL over the ground, which is what I am trying to avoid -_-;
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Anime,
Use old windshield fluid bottles.
They are clear, and you can watch them as they fill.

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Good tip on the clear bottles
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Has anyone used the Castrol GTX motorcycle oil. I swear by the car oil and my car and truck.
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I use castrol 20w50 m/c oil in my 1200c sportster. I bought it with 7k miles last april, and changed it as soon as I got it. I dont know what was in it, but I'm pretty sure it had been serviced since new by the dealer. I also use a fram filter that is a motorcycle filter. I get both filter and oil at checker auto. Can't remember the cost but i'm sure the oil wasn't more than $3.00 a quart, and the filter was about 8-10 dollars I think.
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I used GTX oil in my Suzuki TL1000 back in 1997. Immediately the clutch started slipping. I went back to motorcycle oil, and after two oil changes 1000 miles apart, all was better.
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I usually get a mobil1 filter and mobil1 v-twin oil at autozone.
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The gtx I got was just for motorcycles. I am gonna change it out this weekend. I will see how it goes.
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I didn't realize Farm and Fleet was carrying Amsoil. Is that new? For $8.99/qt it's a great deal. I have been paying almost $11.00/quart at Autozone for the Mobil1. Farm and Fleet didn't previously carry the 20W50 Mobil1 either last I checked.
This is at Mill's Fleet Farm, not Blaine's. Sorry for not being clear.
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