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Old 08-23-2013, 01:29 PM   #1
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Default Muslim march 09/11/2013

https://www.facebook.com/2MillionBikersDC

Site where bikers are attending to protest their agenda on 09/11/2013.

Anyone planning on riding to DC?

http://www.redstate.com/2013/08/23/n...-muslim-march/

A great ride and a great cause.
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I hope they get a historical turnout!!! Some people complain about their treatment and complain about discrimination...then they pull something like the Muslim march or wanting to build a mosque on the Twin Towers site. What happened to showing respect? Neither of those things are respectful to this country or the folks that lost their lives that day. I realize not all Muslims are wanting to cause pain to this Nation, but this kind of thing is just an insult and causes antagonism. Just my opinion....
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I heard from a little birdie that there are a lot of bikers who are going whom want to bring lots of bacon and pork.
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Probably wouldn't hurt to take a couple feral hogs with tusks...
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Guess the swine in DC don't count.
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They aren't swine, they are skunks. One or more of them is/are also the skunks that gave them the permit for the march to be held on 09-11.
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Probably Mr. Kenya himself ok'ed the permit/ go ahead.
Wouldn't be surprised if they issued out suicide vest permits for them as well.
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They aren't swine, they are skunks. One or more of them is/are also the skunks that gave them the permit for the march to be held on 09-11.
No, those are traitors.
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I hope they get a historical turnout!!! Some people complain about their treatment and complain about discrimination...then they pull something like the Muslim march or wanting to build a mosque on the Twin Towers site. What happened to showing respect? Neither of those things are respectful to this country or the folks that lost their lives that day. I realize not all Muslims are wanting to cause pain to this Nation, but this kind of thing is just an insult and causes antagonism. Just my opinion....
I agree with you Moni!
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I hope they get a historical turnout!!! Some people complain about their treatment and complain about discrimination...then they pull something like the Muslim march or wanting to build a mosque on the Twin Towers site. What happened to showing respect? Neither of those things are respectful to this country or the folks that lost their lives that day. I realize not all Muslims are wanting to cause pain to this Nation, but this kind of thing is just an insult and causes antagonism. Just my opinion....
You really need to get facts right, not create or believe myths. Seems that mosque that was to be "built" NEAR (I believe it was at least about 1/2 mile away) the twin towers site was an extension or replacement for a mosque that was already in the area. It was also a sect of
Muslims that were sympathetic to 9-11 and definitely pro-American. I remember the whole thing as it unfolded. I am not too sure that the actual plans didn't predate 9-11, but I forget.

The facts need to be right. That is the problem way too often in too many cases - assumptions without knowledge of facts. We, as motorcyclists get upset when there are mythical generalities tossed about, as Americans we get upset, and so on... but you don't think it would be right should main stream Muslims feel the same way?

Just saying have the facts.
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They aren't swine, they are skunks. One or more of them is/are also the skunks that gave them the permit for the march to be held on 09-11.
Did you feel the same way when there was the Christian Million Man March?

This country is founded on religious freedom and that has to include all religions otherwise a precedent is set to stop Muslims, Hindus, Jews, and finally Christians... last two sound familiar? Can you say 1938-1945 Germany or later the USSR? It isn't selective.

I'm sure I'll get flamed here, but hey - it's the USA and you do have the right - just like those muslims and those bikers.

I really find it kind of humorous how many in this thread are the first to cry about freedom... apparently the first to want to deny it to others.
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Mark I hope you are sitting down and maybe a drink in your hand but I pretty much agree with your post.
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OK, let me start by saying I am not looking at this as a religious thing. To me it is more like a member of an attacking group rubbing salt in an open wound. Granted not all Muslims took part in the attack and not all of them want to do harm to the U S, but there are lots that do and it was a group of Muslims that attacked on 09-11 and also brought forth the Boston bombings.

They have the right to march and I support that right. I just think it is poor taste to do it on 09-11.

In comparison, I think it would be improper for the U S to have a holiday on August 6th or August 9th, the days the bombs were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

I also think it would have been wrong for "white men" to celebrate on December 29, the day of the Wounded Knee Massacre.

To me those kind of acts are antagonistic and if you really feel bad about what happened, out of respect they should not be celebrated. I also agreed when they had the soldiers remove the American Flag from Saddam's statue in Iraq.

I hope I am getting across what I feel...it is really hard to do that on a post.

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What about Timothy McVeigh? Should we show intolerance to Christians? Do
most people understand what freedom and tolerance means? I've traveled the
world and have experience many different cultures. I found that Americans are
among the least tolerant and knowledgeable about other religions and
cultures.
Before anyone accuses me of being Un-American; you know nothing about me
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What about Timothy McVeigh? Should we show intolerance to Christians? Do
most people understand what freedom and tolerance means? I've traveled the
world and have experience many different cultures. I found that Americans are
among the least tolerant and knowledgeable about other religions and
cultures.
Before anyone accuses me of being Un-American; you know nothing about me
or my background.
I think that we in America simply have a different outlook because we are so disconnected (geographically) from the rest of the world.
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What about Timothy McVeigh? Should we show intolerance to Christians? Do
most people understand what freedom and tolerance means? I've traveled the
world and have experience many different cultures. I found that Americans are
among the least tolerant and knowledgeable about other religions and
cultures.
Before anyone accuses me of being Un-American; you know nothing about me
or my background.
If indeed you have travelled the world you no doubt spent some time in England where it seems every second building is a mosque,marches on a weekly basis by those that inhabit said mosques...protests outside military bases chanting hate filled ****e from the koran...and the killing in public streets of British soldiers once again by those that inhabit said mosques is another.Muslims are without doubt the least tolerant of others.
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Yes, No matter where they are, in Europe, they are the only group that make unreasonable demands on the host country, then find an excuse to riot.
Heck, just recently in Burma ? They got the Buddists so riled up that they went on a rampage against them.
Most of the problem lies with weak politicians, who know, if they go against their own people, they will write an angry letter to the newspapers, but go against the Muslims, and they might get killed.
As happened to the Dutch politician, also a Danish Judge who would not allow payment of blood money, in a Danish court, had her house torched,in the middle of the night.
Add to that, the Police seem paralysed by a combination of political correctness and left wing leanings in the leadership.
A Muslim youth caught spraying Al Qaida slogans on a war memorial, was given a slap on the wrist, Judge saying he was just being silly, NOT Racist.
But when a white youth threw a packet of bacon at a Mosque after the murder of Rigby, The full weight of the Law was mobilized to hunt him down & punish him.
That difference, is causing more and more resentment among the locals.
Soon the Politicians will have to own up to the fact that it is not just a few fanatics, that are killing everyone else around the world.
I think Breivik was the first, with many more to come.
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Did you feel the same way when there was the Christian Million Man March?

This country is founded on religious freedom and that has to include all religions otherwise a precedent is set to stop Muslims, Hindus, Jews, and finally Christians... last two sound familiar? Can you say 1938-1945 Germany or later the USSR? It isn't selective.

I'm sure I'll get flamed here, but hey - it's the USA and you do have the right - just like those muslims and those bikers.

I really find it kind of humorous how many in this thread are the first to cry about freedom... apparently the first to want to deny it to others.
I think you have missed the point. its one thing to allow religious freedom
but when part of the religion is to cause as much trouble as possible, demand changes to the way of life, of the local inhabitants, to the point of killing them in the streets, then the locals have the freedom to try & stop it.
and when wishy washy politicians do nothing, and the police driven by left leaning leadership and political correctness do not act.
you get Breiviks, who are at least doing something for their country, and thought of as heroes.
Bit like your George Washington actually.
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I travel a lot in Europe and visit the US at least once a year.
Unless something big happens, in Europe, there is no mention of it in the US media.
Therefore, the majority of Americans, are unaware of how bad the situation is, with Muslims in Europe.

Of course the lefty BLiars Broadcasting Clowns, are only too willing to point out that the governments do nothing to help the Muslims integrate into the host society.
There is never any mention of the Muslim unwillingness to integrate, or the demands they make, their deliberate creation of Muslim enclaves, where the various police forces refuse to enter, because it would turn into another riot.

Point in case, the Swedish police shot someone running around threatening people with a machete. That gave the Muslims an excuse to riot again.

http://www.clarionproject.org/analys...ough-stockholm

How did Commie News Network, describe that to the USA ?

Unemployed Swedish youths riot in Stockholm.
With no mention of the root cause, used as yet another excuse to riot.

The politicians & police are facing growing unrest in the local populace, and will not be able to keep the lid on this for much longer.
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MG you are correct, we in the USA do not see what is happening in Europe unless we really look at outside news sources or have friends overseas. I agree our news media keeps our heads in the sand.
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Fox news had a short segment earlier today about tomorrows 2 million bikers to DC ride. Said we were denied permits and even though the facebook page got over 56k likes, the muslim march page only had 146 likes on FB.

It's going to be a big cluster of a bike mess once all the riders hit DC. Plan is for my area to meet up with main group by 6 am in Paulsboro off 295 near the bridge. Smaller groups meeting real early like 5:30 am up just north of me. Temps are going to be wicked hot tomorrow too. But the real mess will be hitting DC @ noon, with no police support at lights, I have a feeling there is going to be motorcycle congestion in and around DC area with this event.
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HAVE A GOOD ONE !
SORRY I CANNOT BE THERE !
TAKE CARE OUT THERE !
JEEZ, IF I ONLY HAD THE MONEY FOR THE PLANE TICKET!!!!

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You really need to get facts right, not create or believe myths. Seems that mosque that was to be "built" NEAR (I believe it was at least about 1/2 mile away) the twin towers site was an extension or replacement for a mosque that was already in the area. It was also a sect of
Muslims that were sympathetic to 9-11 and definitely pro-American. I remember the whole thing as it unfolded. I am not too sure that the actual plans didn't predate 9-11, but I forget.

The facts need to be right. That is the problem way too often in too many cases - assumptions without knowledge of facts. We, as motorcyclists get upset when there are mythical generalities tossed about, as Americans we get upset, and so on... but you don't think it would be right should main stream Muslims feel the same way?

Just saying have the facts.
Good post Mark. I was about to write something similar. I am tired of people "conveniently" screwing up facts to fit their agendas.

The mosque in question was near, but not on the WTC site. As are hundreds and hundreds of other buildings.
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So the Mosque was to be built in the "shadow of the Twin Towers"...my mistake. Below is a copy of some of the reports the media released:

Debra Burlingame, a sister of a pilot killed when his plane was flown by a terrorist into the Pentagon and a spokesperson for victims’ families, said: ‘Barack Obama has abandoned America at the place where America’s heart was broken nine years ago, and where her true values were on display for all to see.’

Peter King, a Republican congressman in New York, said the President had been wrong to back the plan, adding: ‘It is insensitive and uncaring for the Muslim community to build a mosque in the shadow of Ground Zero.’

Sally Regenhard, whose firefighter son was killed at the World Trade Center, condemed the President for a 'gross lack of sensitivity to the 9/11 families and to the people who were lost.'

Republican House Minority Leader John Boehner said the decision to build the mosque wasn't an issue of religious freedom, but a matter of respect.

'The fact that someone has the right to do something doesn't necessarily make it the right thing to do. That is the essence of tolerance, peace and understanding,' he said.
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I was not trying to "conveniently" screw up facts to fit my agenda!!!!!!

Apparently I am not the only one that thinks it is an insult though. And, as I said...this is MY opinion.

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Should be interesting, most of the local bikes will be heading east for bike week
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Good post Mark. I was about to write something similar. I am tired of people "conveniently" screwing up facts to fit their agendas.

The mosque in question was near, but not on the WTC site. As are hundreds and hundreds of other buildings.
Militant Muslims, wanting to dominate the world. Exactly as described in their Koran ?

What FACT is conveniently screwed up, to fit Al Quaida¨s Agenda ?
Do you work for CNN ?
Yes there may be hundreds of other buildings, nearby, but the majority are not going to be filled with people who hate you, and want to destroy your way of life.

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I don't live in the area nor do I have friends or family that live there so I only have the media reports to go on. And yes, I am sorry to say I mispoke when I said "on the site". Now that has been corrected.

I still hope there is a huge turn out of bikers and I pray that all bikers and muslims stay safe and have respect for one another.
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Moni, there are hundreds of buildings in the shadow of the WTC towers.

They were big buildings! Really big!

What do you expect? That no people that you disagree with build in NYC at all?

You, and the people you quoted, are being silly, and in my opinion, unamerican.
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Militant Muslims, wanting to dominate the world, exactly as described in their Koran ?

What FACT is conveniently screwed up, to fit Al Quaida¨s Agenda ?
Do you work for CNN ?
Th fact that was screwed up was Moni saying a mosque was going to be built on the WTC site. That's all I said. Don't blow this out of proportion. I was simply correcting a glaring error.

No, I don't work for CNN. Just call 'em as I see 'em.

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You are entitled to your opinion. Apparently I am not alone in my opinion either. I think I should at this point agree to disagree with you. I did not call you any names and I do not appreciate anyone saying I am "unamerican". This thread is all yours sir......
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Ha ! Yes, RALPHLONG; That certainly was..........Profound.........But made lot more sense after your edit.. So pls dont go away.

OK also others posting on top , jeez I need Faster Fingers

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I would suggest looking into the history of Cordoba, which the proposed "community center" is named after. Coincidence? I think not. The naming of the center was carefully thought out as memorializing what is seen by many as a victory over the US.

Cordoba has been long considered by the Muslim world as a symbol of victory over infidel nations (specifically the Roman Empire, the most powerful force in the world at the time) and the birthplace of the Islamic Caliphate, which to this day is the ultimate goal of radicalized Muslims the world over.
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You are entitled to your opinion. Apparently I am not alone in my opinion either. I think I should at this point agree to disagree with you. I did not call you any names and I do not appreciate anyone saying I am "unamerican". This thread is all yours sir......
Well, once again, I call 'em as I see 'em Moni,

I'm done with this tread too. Too many people conveniently picking out details that fit their agendas.

Bye folks.

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See ! if I had not been so busy editing my previous post, I would have written exactly what DODSFALL just did !
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...otest-muslim-/

I just watched many of the video's on this link. It sure brought tears to my eyes seeing all of the bikes flying the United States Flags so proudly!!! Respect and Honor.
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Baltimore Washington Corridor
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There were bikes everywhere today.
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