Need help please

fireman1922 · 08-05-2011, 04:58 PM

Hey i am needing help also. I'm new to the site. I just got a 2003 Xtreme Montana. The only problem is it will not start unless you push it off. There is a new battery in it. My friend showed me a black box size 3"x4" and said it had something to do with the firing of the bike. He hit it a couple times with a screwdriver and the bike started, but now it will not even start to that much. I would love to get this running. It's my first bike and i figure i would start off cheap. Only paid 200 for it. But PLEASE HELP ME. Thanks so much fireman1922 (Joseph)

4Raven · 08-05-2011, 05:06 PM

I am not familiar with the bike, but when my bike went I immediately noticed it was not igniting. Check spark plugs and fuses first...

WintrSol · 08-05-2011, 10:48 PM

Will it still push start? If so, the battery connections or cables may be bad, causing too much voltage drop when starting normally. In any case, make sure the battery cables and terminals are clean, wipe them with silicone grease after connecting them. Then check the other ends, especially the ground; often, there will be corrosion, or the surface wasn't cleaned enough before bolting it to the frame.

Girl · 08-06-2011, 02:45 AM

It seems like a good place to start is figuring out what the black box was, lol.. and why it started when tapped. Maybe it houses wires, and the wires are loose?

tazzmadness · 08-06-2011, 07:58 AM

sounds like in the box was connections and the wires were loose. strip it if you can to make sure all connections are tight and look to see if anything is loose or not were its suppose to be.
if its a sealed unit look for the part on google let us know what it is

WintrSol · 08-06-2011, 10:53 AM

The black box is the electronic ignition, which has connectors. Unplug, clean, and add dielectric (silicone) grease, then reconnect any and all of them, when you check the battery terminals. If it was hit hard enough, the internal solder joints could now be cracked (if they weren't already).

fireman1922 · 08-06-2011, 06:52 PM

Thanks for all the help people. I now have the bike. I have the black box off of it. Now just trying to find the part. I have looked everywhere for a manual and can't find one. If anyone can find a site PLEASE post the link. Thanks again.

stmanser · 08-08-2011, 02:56 PM

Clymer sells manuals for most bikes.
I found mine in eBay for $20. ( i think).

Dodsfall · 08-08-2011, 07:11 PM

It may be difficult to find a manual (or even parts) for this bike. As posted earlier, check the connections first. You might be able to contact the importer for parts if needed.

08-05-2011, 04:58 PM	#1
fireman1922 Motorcyclist Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Clanton, AL Posts: 8	Need help please Hey i am needing help also. I'm new to the site. I just got a 2003 Xtreme Montana. The only problem is it will not start unless you push it off. There is a new battery in it. My friend showed me a black box size 3"x4" and said it had something to do with the firing of the bike. He hit it a couple times with a screwdriver and the bike started, but now it will not even start to that much. I would love to get this running. It's my first bike and i figure i would start off cheap. Only paid 200 for it. But PLEASE HELP ME. Thanks so much fireman1922 (Joseph)

08-05-2011, 05:06 PM	#2
4Raven Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,080	I am not familiar with the bike, but when my bike went I immediately noticed it was not igniting. Check spark plugs and fuses first... __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. The woman who follows the crowd will usually go no further than the crowd. The woman who walks alone is liable to go to places no one has ever been before. - Albert Einstein

08-05-2011, 10:48 PM	#3
WintrSol Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Florissant, MO Posts: 2,556	Will it still push start? If so, the battery connections or cables may be bad, causing too much voltage drop when starting normally. In any case, make sure the battery cables and terminals are clean, wipe them with silicone grease after connecting them. Then check the other ends, especially the ground; often, there will be corrosion, or the surface wasn't cleaned enough before bolting it to the frame. __________________ '68-7? CB450 and '05 S50 Boulevard

08-06-2011, 10:53 AM	#6
WintrSol Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Florissant, MO Posts: 2,556	The black box is the electronic ignition, which has connectors. Unplug, clean, and add dielectric (silicone) grease, then reconnect any and all of them, when you check the battery terminals. If it was hit hard enough, the internal solder joints could now be cracked (if they weren't already). __________________ '68-7? CB450 and '05 S50 Boulevard

08-08-2011, 07:11 PM	#9
Dodsfall Administrator Join Date: May 2008 Location: Illinois, USA Posts: 15,843	It may be difficult to find a manual (or even parts) for this bike. As posted earlier, check the connections first. You might be able to contact the importer for parts if needed. __________________ 2008 XL1200R To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

08-06-2011, 02:45 AM	#4
Girl Verified Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Staten Island, New York Posts: 94	It seems like a good place to start is figuring out what the black box was, lol.. and why it started when tapped. Maybe it houses wires, and the wires are loose?

08-06-2011, 07:58 AM	#5
tazzmadness Verified Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: north west Posts: 83	sounds like in the box was connections and the wires were loose. strip it if you can to make sure all connections are tight and look to see if anything is loose or not were its suppose to be. if its a sealed unit look for the part on google let us know what it is

08-06-2011, 06:52 PM	#7
fireman1922 Motorcyclist Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Clanton, AL Posts: 8	Thanks for all the help people. I now have the bike. I have the black box off of it. Now just trying to find the part. I have looked everywhere for a manual and can't find one. If anyone can find a site PLEASE post the link. Thanks again.

08-08-2011, 02:56 PM	#8
stmanser Verified Join Date: May 2011 Location: Davenport, IA Posts: 31	Clymer sells manuals for most bikes. I found mine in eBay for $20. ( i think).

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