freeway bikers

[paula]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_bFK...ature=youtu.be

[Biker Dash]

If this is the incident that I am thinking of, then it appears that the rider could have had a LOT more charges pressed against him.

[Castle81]

It is not. Dallas sheriff's office has acknowledged that dash-cam video of the incident does not exist, nor does any showing the rider doing anything illegal exist. This was released to show a "state of mind" of officers overall that day, and what they were dealing with. The only verifiable connection between the two is date of occurrence. Call me crazy, but "our officers were frustrated and therefore justified in violating constitution rights" is a lame excuse.

Don't get me wrong. I hate these tools that invade every memorial day. However, I also respect the law. There's limits to what an officer can do for a reason. Without them, things can go orwellian in a hurry.

Could someone post the helmet cam vid in here? I would but my phone is arguing with me. The discussion kinda makes the two vids a package deal.

[paula]

http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/Motor...159671765.html

[Biker Dash]

Originally Posted by Castle81

It is not. Dallas sheriff's office has acknowledged that dash-cam video of the incident does not exist, nor does any showing the rider doing anything illegal exist. This was released to show a "state of mind" of officers overall that day, and what they were dealing with. The only verifiable connection between the two is date of occurrence. Call me crazy, but "our officers were frustrated and therefore justified in violating constitution rights" is a lame excuse.

Don't get me wrong. I hate these tools that invade every memorial day. However, I also respect the law. There's limits to what an officer can do for a reason. Without them, things can go orwellian in a hurry.

Could someone post the helmet cam vid in here? I would but my phone is arguing with me. The discussion kinda makes the two vids a package deal.

so the vid posted in the OP is from a totally seperate incident?

[paula]

cops and cars don't look the same

[Dodsfall]

There is only one reason for hiding the license plate. That's enough to get a rider legally stopped, and possibly arrested, depending on the local statutes.

I'd be interested to see how many of his friends got in trouble after the police reviewed the tape. It's a bad idea to record your criminal activities, but some people can never learn from other's mistakes.

[Castle81]

The op vid is not from a dash cam involved in the arrest of the helmet cam rider.

On memorial day, a group of 75-100 sportbike riders converged on I-75. A$$-hattery ensued. Helmet-cam-guy was in the group when pulled over. Wether he was A PART OF that group or just "caught in the pack" is unclear. He was not observed or charged with anything other the possible plate violation, which may be unfounded to begin with. No arrests have been made from the footage on the siezed cam, as it was illegally obtained and cannot be used as evidence. The arresting officer initally states he pulled the rider for the sole purpose of siezing the cam, without warrant, for evidenc against other riders. Only later does he return with the plate offense. The full unedited 11min vid from.the helmet cam also shows possible excessive use of force.

Again, I do NOT condone the actions of the werckless riders. Frankly, my solution involves lots and lots of piano wire, and if the helmet cam rider WAS involved, he deserves to be prosocuted. Just don't abuse the power of authority to accomplish those means.

[goalie]

Give me a FRIGGIN break. Bunch of entitled little sh!ts. Hope they all rot in jail one day.

Oops -- not very pc, but ...

[Biker Dash]

Originally Posted by Castle81

The op vid is not from a dash cam involved in the arrest of the helmet cam rider.

On memorial day, a group of 75-100 sportbike riders converged on I-75. A$$-hattery ensued. Helmet-cam-guy was in the group when pulled over. Wether he was A PART OF that group or just "caught in the pack" is unclear. He was not observed or charged with anything other the possible plate violation, which may be unfounded to begin with. No arrests have been made from the footage on the siezed cam, as it was illegally obtained and cannot be used as evidence. The arresting officer initally states he pulled the rider for the sole purpose of siezing the cam, without warrant, for evidenc against other riders. Only later does he return with the plate offense. The full unedited 11min vid from.the helmet cam also shows possible excessive use of force.

Again, I do NOT condone the actions of the werckless riders. Frankly, my solution involves lots and lots of piano wire, and if the helmet cam rider WAS involved, he deserves to be prosocuted. Just don't abuse the power of authority to accomplish those means.

Your right. The police are charged with upholding the law, therefor, they MUST follow the law themselves. If they step beyond the bounds of legality in order to enforce the law, they lose the right to enforce said laws.

Originally Posted by goalie

Give me a FRIGGIN break. Bunch of entitled little sh!ts. Hope they all rot in jail one day.

Oops -- not very pc, but ...

I agree with you there that those riders who do that ***** deserve to spend time in jail, but they must be procuted through proper channels. Otherwise, we might as well throw the entire Constitution and Bill of Rights into the burn barrel.

[paula]

i think Mc is spam

[Castle81]

Random update. Found it interesting.

http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/Sheri...162293796.html

[Lurch77]

I'd have said screw it and used the bumper guard on that guy's ass. Once I knocked him down I wouldn't have stopped. Then I'd back up just to make sure the job was done. Idiots like that give all bikers a bad name. The cop might as well live up to the reputation everyone on the internet assumes of them anyway.

Yes, I know I'm overreacting, you don't need to give me a lecture.

[RobMoore]

I didnt see the video, so this is only related to these types of videos, but of all the things people do that cause actual harm to others, I find the attention that is given to stunting or speeding riders laughable. People get SOOO wound up over this type of stuff.

Collisions between bikes and cagers rarely turn out worse for the cager. There are worse offender types to put your attention on.

I think people get so uptight about sportbikes because they see them "getting away with it" a lot. They don't like that.

For the record, I'm not a stunter, street racer, or a weaver of traffic. I speed. I enjoy curvy back roads.

[Squally]

Originally Posted by Lurch77

I'd have said screw it and used the bumper guard on that guy's ass. Once I knocked him down I wouldn't have stopped. Then I'd back up just to make sure the job was done. Idiots like that give all bikers a bad name. The cop might as well live up to the reputation everyone on the internet assumes of them anyway.

Yes, I know I'm overreacting, you don't need to give me a lecture.

Lecture...Hell, I was thinking "this is why I can't be a cop...I would totally 'accidentally' rear-end that jack*** during one of his swerving/braking maneuvers." I would probably skip the backing up to make sure the job was done, only do I could assume the following look:
Me shrugging shoulders, holding out hands and saying "dude just pulled in front of me and hit his brakes"

I also like that when he did get the pick-up truck pulled over, the girl in the back of the pick-up hands over a couple mysterious items to the guy on the motorcycle that was running interference for them. If I had to guess, I'm thinking the motorcycle guy didn't want the cop to bust the "party truck."

[RobMoore]

Finally saw the video. That was obviously a delay tactic. I don't know why the truck didnt get rid of their "stuff" before they were pulled over. I also don't know why the cop stayed behind the bike that long. He didn't seem in any rush to get around him. Perhaps he fell for the distraction.

[goalie]

Originally Posted by RobMoore

I didnt see the video, so this is only related to these types of videos, but of all the things people do that cause actual harm to others, I find the attention that is given to stunting or speeding riders laughable. People get SOOO wound up over this type of stuff.

Collisions between bikes and cagers rarely turn out worse for the cager. There are worse offender types to put your attention on.

I think people get so uptight about sportbikes because they see them "getting away with it" a lot. They don't like that.

For the record, I'm not a stunter, street racer, or a weaver of traffic. I speed. I enjoy curvy back roads.

Nah, I don't think its the "they're getting away with it." I think that most people share my views that everyone should be conscious of the safety of others -- at least in terms of our own personal behavior. When you add to that the fact that too many people think all bikers are A-holes, it makes the highway antics that much harder to swallow.

For the record, anyone who consciously acts in a manner that any reasonable person knows is a risk to others should be subjected to five minutes alone in a room with the loved ones of all who may have been impacted by the stupidity. I consider myself a very "live and let live" kind of personality, but I think the worst kind of slime are those who do not care about others.