anyone here like "REAL" choppers?

[dirty old biker]

Hey Kings .....have you got a pix of yourself on the bike ? Just curious to see .....if so post em......if not get busy and make some !(lol) I talk to ya so much on this forum ,just want to connect a face to my friends on here !

[Kingshead]

Originally Posted by dirty old biker

Hey Kings .....have you got a pix of yourself on the bike ? Just curious to see .....if so post em......if not get busy and make some !(lol) I talk to ya so much on this forum ,just want to connect a face to my friends on here !

Been trying, having problem with downloading new photos.

[dirty old biker]

Originally Posted by Kingshead

Been trying, having problem with downloading new photos.

That's cool ....I'm patient

[Capt.]

Originally Posted by Kingshead

Hey Capt., if you read my defenition a little more carefully you will notice the word built in bold lettering. As in custom built, OCC's bikes may be OEM but are not production bikes. Yes they are producing the bikes as are any builder/customizer, but the term production is an acronym for mass produced.

I don't know how old you are but extended forks are most definately not a west coast thang, it's a time era thang. As a kid growing up in the sixties all customized cruisers had extended forks. Bobbers are a very recent genre, and isn't bobbing (cutting) the same as chopping (cutting). My current ride used to be a bobber, and the whole premis for a bobber is "if it don't make it go faster, take it the f**k off".Visit S. FL. sometime and you'll see more bikes with extended forks than you can shake a stick at.

As far as the road conditions are concerned, Fl. is waaaay ahead of Ca. in this department. Ca. may have better roads than La. but they are still ridiculously inadequate, take a ride on hwy. 99 sometime. If you will read my thread "Deer Jumper" in "bike stories" it mentions I've ridden my Bobber/Chopper across the country and back so I know of what I speak about the road conditions.

As for customized, if I hang a Gremlin bell on an otherwise stock bike it's now customized, as in following a custom. For that matter, the standard custom is to purchase a bike from one of the makers of mass production bikes, so by defenition alone these are the true custom bikes. What we ride are modifieds if anything other than stock. Even if it's only an after market windshield, it's still modified. And in the 60's the custom modification was to extend the forks, and the custom was to call these modifications choppers, west coast or east coast.

It's only a name, call it what ever you want, personally I like a bike with a nice set of choppers.

Well here we go, sorry you seem to be taking a defensive position to my post. Perhaps because I used your comment as a generic example. I'm not here to pick fly $hit outta pepper but I would like to express a few observations as long as you brought them up. OCC has been in the business of building production bikes for awhile now ( the Wolverine, K2, Cole-Met, Tex-Inst. and Mountain Creek to name a few). Their shop is just down the Northway from one of my shops.
As far as how long I've been around? I've been a builder since the late 60's on both coasts (registered with NHTSA, EPA & SAE) and what I wrote was base on my observations and experiences as a rider and builder over the decades.
I agree with you that the term "Bobber" has gained prevalence in most recent years but the term itself has been around at least since post WWII.
My reference to road conditions was comparing the western states to the northeastern states. I'm not sure how FL. got into conversation but, as long as you bring it up, I grew up here. St. Pete to be exact and I currently live and have one of my shops here in S. Florida. Trust me, I know what a pot hole is. LOL.
Again, terminology can be a convoluted thing. What one term used to mean yesterday can mean something else entirely tomorrow. Observations over the years can also be skewed much like looking at a painting. No two people will see the same thing as the other does. Remember, opinions are like a$$ holes....everybody's got one. You don't have to agree with mine nor do I have to agree with yours either. I believe we can agree that, no matter what we call it, backyard engineers have come up with some very innovative concepts for motorcycles over the years that we all can appreciate and admire.
Capt.

[Kingshead]

Originally Posted by Capt.

Well here we go, sorry you seem to be taking a defensive position to my post. Perhaps because I used your comment as a generic example. I'm not here to pick fly $hit outta pepper but I would like to express a few observations as long as you brought them up. OCC has been in the business of building production bikes for awhile now ( the Wolverine, K2, Cole-Met, Tex-Inst. and Mountain Creek to name a few). Their shop is just down the Northway from one of my shops.
As far as how long I've been around? I've been a builder since the late 60's on both coasts (registered with NHTSA, EPA & SAE) and what I wrote was base on my observations and experiences as a rider and builder over the decades.
I agree with you that the term "Bobber" has gained prevalence in most recent years but the term itself has been around at least since post WWII.
My reference to road conditions was comparing the western states to the northeastern states. I'm not sure how FL. got into conversation but, as long as you bring it up, I grew up here. St. Pete to be exact and I currently live and have one of my shops here in S. Florida. Trust me, I know what a pot hole is. LOL.
Again, terminology can be a convoluted thing. What one term used to mean yesterday can mean something else entirely tomorrow. Observations over the years can also be skewed much like looking at a painting. No two people will see the same thing as the other does. Remember, opinions are like a$$ holes....everybody's got one. You don't have to agree with mine nor do I have to agree with yours either. I believe we can agree that, no matter what we call it, backyard engineers have come up with some very innovative concepts for motorcycles over the years that we all can appreciate and admire.
Capt.

Hey Capt., The only real builders are the do it yourselfers. If you want a bike to stir your soul every time you ride or look at it, it must come from your own soul.

As I said previously, OCC is producing bikes, and not just one offs, but they are in no way MASS producing them. As in Honda, Harley, Yamaha, etc. Big difference.

As far as Florida is concerned, I could be mistaken but I believe it's on the East coast. And I could be mistaken again but didn't you say east coast verses west coast concerning the chopper thang? Just sayin.

Stirring the pot one more time. HAAAAA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Hey, I would really like to see that pepper trick, hope you can show it to me sometime. I bet you must have practiced that for many hours to be able too tell the difference. That must be some fuuuny $hit.

[Kingshead]

Originally Posted by dirty old biker

Hey Kings .....have you got a pix of yourself on the bike ? Just curious to see .....if so post em......if not get busy and make some !(lol) I talk to ya so much on this forum ,just want to connect a face to my friends on here !

Still having problems downloading so went through the back door. Down loaded from my camera to my sister in law's computer, e-mailed to myself, down loaded to my pic's, downloaded to site. Pain in the arse and quality suffered but worked. Pic's of me on the bike to follow.

[dirty old biker]

Originally Posted by Kingshead

Still having problems downloading so went through the back door. Down loaded from my camera to my sister in law's computer, e-mailed to myself, down loaded to my pic's, downloaded to site. Pain in the arse and quality suffered but worked. Pic's of me on the bike to follow.

Wow ! sounds like a hassle ! but now we can all see who we're yackin' at !
Good job , smart thinking ! and mostly THANX ! ....I still say ya' need to make that cross country trip sometimes and vist us here in Ala !

[Kingshead]

Originally Posted by dirty old biker

Wow ! sounds like a hassle ! but now we can all see who we're yackin' at !
Good job , smart thinking ! and mostly THANX ! ....I still say ya' need to make that cross country trip sometimes and vist us here in Ala !

Looking forward to it myself, maybe meet half way?

[dirty old biker]

Originally Posted by Kingshead

Looking forward to it myself, maybe meet half way?

Maybe.....gotta get my wife past her hip replacement surgery first....she's got her first pre-surgery visit the 25th this month.

[RydonLanks]

Choppers vs bobbers, meh... custom is what you need to run... and by that I mean your own custom... "If your going to ride a bike you have to make it your own" even something as simple as paint can make it your own bike.

As far as "real choppers" that this article began as... I couldn't afford to buy a "custom" from a store either (even tho my opinion is you can't buy a custom you have to build it) and I took a liking to doing for myself... now understand I have the mechanic skills of a Horse.. but anything i cant handle i take it in. Mine? '74 Kawi Z1 in a Santee frame. It started as a streetfighter (took all the plastic and big seat and fenders off) then became a custom (Santee frame, Big block kit) then .... hmm well general consensus, long forks= chopper... so 6" over forks and a bit more rake. ahhh ridin

um need more posts tho in order to paste a pic

Cheers

[Kingshead]

Originally Posted by RydonLanks

Choppers vs bobbers, meh... custom is what you need to run... and by that I mean your own custom... "If your going to ride a bike you have to make it your own" even something as simple as paint can make it your own bike.

As far as "real choppers" that this article began as... I couldn't afford to buy a "custom" from a store either (even tho my opinion is you can't buy a custom you have to build it) and I took a liking to doing for myself... now understand I have the mechanic skills of a Horse.. but anything i cant handle i take it in. Mine? '74 Kawi Z1 in a Santee frame. It started as a streetfighter (took all the plastic and big seat and fenders off) then became a custom (Santee frame, Big block kit) then .... hmm well general consensus, long forks= chopper... so 6" over forks and a bit more rake. ahhh ridin

um need more posts tho in order to paste a pic

Cheers

You can do 11 posts in your sleep,...I know I am right now,...so get posting and stop making excuses,...we want pics!!!


Martin

[Kingshead]

Originally Posted by dirty old biker

Maybe.....gotta get my wife past her hip replacement surgery first....she's got her first pre-surgery visit the 25th this month.

Hey Guy,

You ever get that new bobber? I sure would like to see some pics.

Martin

[dirty old biker]

Originally Posted by Kingshead

Hey Guy,

You ever get that new bobber? I sure would like to see some pics.

Martin

Unfortunately, No ! we had too many complications with the scamming azz insurance co and the settlement didn't get paid by them ....they just kept finding loopholes ! so I finally went to a lawyer and he said after he read all the pages of mumbo jumbo .....that it was a policy that only paid on loss of limbs or eyesight ! $hitt ! Just my rotten luck ! .....but at least her surgery went well and she's back home .....just gotta have to watch her dealing with her pain and "walker" stage she has to endure as she heals ! The hip replacement surgery is brutal and they have to hammer and grind on bone ! they explained tat it would be a slow process of healing !

[RydonLanks]

Originally Posted by Kingshead

You can do 11 posts in your sleep,...I know I am right now,...so get posting and stop making excuses,...we want pics!!!


Martin

K hit the magic number here's my little horse... Have to do some tree work in order to run it so its in... less than operable condition but here's a shot of the rake too... 1150 big block kit '74 Kawi other wise stock components.

[Capt.]

Nice!

[RydonLanks]

Thanks Capt

[Kingshead]

Originally Posted by RydonLanks

K hit the magic number here's my little horse... Have to do some tree work in order to run it so its in... less than operable condition but here's a shot of the rake too... 1150 big block kit '74 Kawi other wise stock components.

I'm getting a picture,...yes, yes, I'm seeing a hardtail conversion with a springer seat in your future.

Looks great so far,...those older exposed inline fours looked mean.


Martin

Hey Bad,...sorry to hear that. Wish the little lady a speedy recovery for me and hope we ride some twisties together soon.

[RydonLanks]

Originally Posted by Kingshead

I'm getting a picture,...yes, yes, I'm seeing a hardtail conversion with a springer seat in your future.

Looks great so far,...those older exposed inline fours looked mean.


Martin

Thanks Martin, I'm looking at my "73 for a hard tail... could be sweet... but sadly right now I'm looking for a rider and been thinking Triumph. Was looking at the America, nice, but only 900cc. went to the dealer and now sadly... I'm looking at the Tbird 1700cc... sigh...

to many toys out there

Cheers

[Kingshead]

Originally Posted by RydonLanks

Thanks Martin, I'm looking at my "73 for a hard tail... could be sweet... but sadly right now I'm looking for a rider and been thinking Triumph. Was looking at the America, nice, but only 900cc. went to the dealer and now sadly... I'm looking at the Tbird 1700cc... sigh...

to many toys out there

Cheers

If only for Jay Leno's pockets. LOL

Martin

[RydonLanks]

Already put this in my help tread but seems fitting here.

Been thinking Bobber for the Triumph so I've done some quick and dirty photo edits to get the look...ish

What do ya think? Bars might be a bit high, not really into apes but seems to work

[Kingshead]

Originally Posted by RydonLanks

Already put this in my help tread but seems fitting here.

Been thinking Bobber for the Triumph so I've done some quick and dirty photo edits to get the look...ish

What do ya think? Bars might be a bit high, not really into apes but seems to work

Looks great,...but some lower bars would be much more fitting to the style in my opinion.

Martin

[Evylchopper]

Originally Posted by Kingshead

Sweet ride Evylchopper, great to see the riders own build ideas. Buying a custom builders design does nothing for me.

Thanks, here is a short video. Shovel is now freshly rebuilt......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm0wlKPr2aU



EV

[Henryinva]

Evyl, nice ride dude!

Got bored at work the other day and started messin round with changing the scoots controls. Got part of it built..

[lucky13]

I love the old school choppers.

[joeyputt]

I love that first photo, that bike is super clean!

[tubesteak]

heres my little project. still have a very long way to go. still neet ot make all of the gussets and braces but even in its weak state now, my 350lb buddy couldnt even make the frame flex at all by bouncing up and down on it





for reference, i started with this



its come a long way but still has a ways to go

[dirty old biker]

Gonna be NICE !

[tubesteak]

i cant wait to get it finished

[Johnnystriple]

I've been working on a Triumph chopper for the past 30 years and haven't got it finished yet.

[mithuth]

Here's one my buddy built out of a 79 CB750. He refers to his as a bobber. I guess either way, chopper or bobber, they're still pretty cool.

[bobberrl]

Isn't chopper by definition "home-made"?

[Mindfulpassages]

The old world comes back...ingenuity, cost cut backs and then a penchant for design. I remember on bicycles we used to cut the forks off one bike and hammer / extend them onto the existing forks. .it was cool.

best,

[rebel]

[turbota2]

I love the 60s choppers, cut weld and whatever it took to get it on the road. Looking to build!

[JakePoppa]

Nice to see talk about choppers as they really are, not 300mm-rear-wheel, raked-to-the-moon monstrosities.

[turbota2]

Yup, I hear them talking about riding an "old school" chopper, then I look at it and it is no more that a "retro" look-alike! I found one from the 60's, an old piglet. Hoping to be able to get it.