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post #201 of 223 (permalink) Old 02-22-2015, 10:48 AM
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I'm reading all these crazy low interest rates.. Is that normal for BMW Motorcycles?? And is that directly from the dealer
I bought my bike under the easy ride program, but refinanced with XCEL Federal Credit Union at a very low rate for a fully amortized loan. They advertise in the BMW mag.
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BMW bikes go on and on and on .....just change the oil and do the services. Build quality means even the hi tech bits keep working. A friend at work has just trained in his old BMW for a new tourer, and it looks like nothing BMW have done before, and looks great....not for me as I like naked bikes, but he has just come back from a holiday to run it in riding around Switzerland for 3000 miles. He reports comfort with a big C.

Al modern German or Japanese touring bikes should go on without issues for many many miles. I have two Yamaha XJ900f because I put 100,000 miles on my first one, and it ran like new even then. Reading this thread has planted a seed to own a BMW at some point, for touring due to comfort, which is the question you should be asking in my opinion....good luck...
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post #203 of 223 (permalink) Old 05-27-2015, 08:33 AM
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I started riding in 1971. I've owned Triumph, Yamaha, Honda. All good bikes in the old days as long as you maintained them. Then came my dream of owning BMW's. That was in the 80's and I haven't changed. My current 81 R100RS is a great ride. I've taken most of it apart and I really appreciate the quality with which most of the components are made. I like the older models. They are much more user friendly.
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post #204 of 223 (permalink) Old 06-08-2015, 12:58 PM
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I've wanted a BMW to match my car, but also because I love the styling. I drove past an old R75 with luggage bags and dreamed about touring Europe in one ever since.
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The BMW touring bikes have opposing cylinders that protrude from the sides of the engine, Have you every had any issues of touching the protruding part of the engine with your leg or having it touch the ground when you tilt in for a turn?

I like the design, but always wondered if the shape of the engine ever becomes an issue..
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The BMW touring bikes have opposing cylinders that protrude from the sides of the engine, Have you every had any issues of touching the protruding part of the engine with your leg or having it touch the ground when you tilt in for a turn?

I like the design, but always wondered if the shape of the engine ever becomes an issue..
No, on my wife's R1200R, the engine is up high enough that there is no concern whatsoever with scraping when leaning. The engine is also forward enough that it never gets close to touching my leg. One thing I find surprising is how cool the bike is to ride. You'd think with the close proximity of the cylinders to the shins, it would be rather hot. But, it isn't. It's a great bike to ride when temps get into the 90s.

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I'll second that. If you lean one over far enough to scrape them on payment you are probably in the process of laying it down anyway.

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You can go for a ride without a credit card and a cell phone .

I have a bunch of vintage British bikes and I love them all, but the romance of not knowing for sure that you were going to make it home has worn thin for me. About 20 years ago I bought a 1981 R100RT that needed restoration, I did that and I still love the thing. 10 years later I bought a 1994 R1100RS...in absolutely perfect one owner type condition. I have ridden it regularly for 10 years, I change the oil and filter every summer and adjust the valves, it has never needed any work at all, never stranded me. It is very fast, very comfortable, and it gets 45 MPG. I could get on it tomorrow and head for the opposite coast with no doubts at all. That's why BMW.
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Found a great deal on a used on and fell in love.
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I just joined the BMW crowd last month. Back in 2007 when I bought my Yammie FJR, there was a beemer F800ST sitting next to it for the same price. The thought of paying the same money for a lot less horsepower didn't appeal to me, but I did like the looks, the refinement and engineering. Overall, the ST just looked like a higher quality machine.

Fast forward to 2015. I was in the market for another bike. Looked at the FJR again (sold my last one in 09), but it was more than I wanted to spend. The local BMW dealer had a new GT (replaced the ST a few years ago) and a leftover 2013 F800R (a naked GT, basically). One test ride and I was hooked. It's big enough for long rides, light enough for around town, something the FJR was not. Build quality is excellent. Engineering is unique. Weight distribution is awesome because the gas tank is under the seat.

Overall, the BMW was just an impressive bike for a great price. I drive a BMW car, so why not give the bike a try? Nearly four thousand miles later and I know it was the right choice for me.
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Because BMW is a popular brand and its bikes are amazing features.
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I bought mine because I was planning on doing touring and heard they were a good choice for that. I didn't want a full touring bike because I still wanted to have fun around town. I also didn't want to be restricted to asphalt, so a dual-sport was the answer. Then I heard about some extra features on the BMW like low centre of gravity, heated grips, and general build quality. Reviews said my particular model, the f650GS, is an excellent starter bike, and I found a 2006 already kitted out for touring, so I was sold.


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Don't buy BMW motorcycle if you don't have to.
I bought 2013 F700GS for my wife because she's short and the bike can be lowered by much.
Now still under 10k miles I'm facing second replacement of fuel injectors. The very same thing was already replaced by local BMW dealer. They recommended me to use fuel treatment which I always did.
I can't wait to sell the piece of ****.
Don't buy BMW motorcycles because they are expensive and not reliable.
I've been riding Japanese bikes for over 20 years. And they were usually older than the bmw and I love them all.
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Never had a problem with my BMW.

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You guys in Canada have better fuel so the BMers may last longer.
With that being said I will repeat: don't buy BMW motorcycle in the US.
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I'm not in Canada

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The only problem with BMW's in the states is the lack of good dealers and mechanics. I put 66k on my 88 K100LT and would still have it except I ran into zero good dealers and mechanics in Texas. Crooks really compared to the dealers in Cali. That engine I just didn't know how to work on. I don't mind paying for good service. But the crap they were dishing out here should be against the law. I knew that machine as far as how it ran. You have to be able to trust, and the dealers here gave me NONE. Rather than deal with them, I sold it before they got their hands on it under my ownership. Saw it a few years later but my Harley could out run it. What they(dealers) or the owner did to it I don't know and don't care. But that's the problem with BMW's in the USA.

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I had my recently sold R 1200 GS for 8 years. When I bought it, I used the side stand very often. Then, after a while, I started to notice that the mechanical noises started to get louder when I fired the bike up. When I noticed that, it was just a tiny clatter. But over the time it got louder.

My best guess was, that while on the side stand, all oil ran to the left side of the engine and the clatter came from the dry running valves of the right Hand side cylinder. So I started to use the center stand ONLY for a some years.

THEN I had this well known problem with the bolts of the center stand. The left Hand side bolt broke one day, what I didn't notice. To make that story short :One day, the broken bolt fell out completely and the center stand MOVED while I drove. The center stand touched the flank on the left Hand side ot the rear tire and damaged it severely. I tell you. I was one lucky dude that day. If it wasn't just a short communting hop in the evening, I guess that incident could have ended far worse. If that happend on a no speed limit section of our famous high speed Autobahn ... Nah, I don't even want to think of it.

Anyway. Because of this incident, I had to remove my center stand. And that rattle, especially when I fired up the cold engine got louder an louder.

That is why " I " used the center stand ONLY - when I put the center stand on my R 1200 GS again ( after some gruell discussions with BMW )

IMHO, because of the boxer engine all oil flows to the right hand side of the engine, if you use sthe side stand. Then on the next start up, the dry valves on the right hand cylinder are running dry for a second, what causes some wear of the valve. In the end the rattle on the start up of my R 1200 GS was very noticeable.

Just for Information : I allways used the best available synthetic oil for my BMW, required from the manufacturer. In fact, I've never done an oil change for myself. It was done with the annual inspections from the dealer.

For anyone who like to know it : In the opinion from BMW, that broken Aluminum bolt of the center stand, was my entirely fault. I missed one annual inspection ! BMW clinged monotonous to that. I went to a good lawyer and he told me frankly "Forget it. We are here in Germany and to sue BMW brings you only misery. Take that rear tire with the massive damaged flank and hang it to the wall of your garage. "

I would have done that. But the small independent bike dealer, who changed that damaged rear tire "lost" it. To bad. Isn't it ?
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Know several riders with 200k miles on theirs and still going strong.

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Did I read that correctly? You only changed the oil once a year? Is that 10 miles or 10,000 miles? Or kilometers if appropriate. I must have missed something here.

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IMHO, BMW's aren't bad, just overprized - especially here in Europe. BMW's are really good bikes, very close to perfect. BMW could build perfect bikes, if they wouldn't try to make even more Money ( as all companys ) They have a almost perfect bike, like the "new" watercooled R 1200 GS, work on the teething problems and got that bike really almost perfect. When everyone is satisfied, the guys from the controler branch jump in and it goes like this : "Geee, we have this almost perfect bike now. But can't we change this or that part. To make it cheaper in the production ?
Then the misery beginns.

When I finally decided to replace my 2005 BMW R 1200 GS last year, I went to the castle of my local BMW King ( Dealer ) and begged on my knees, to get a 2015 R 1200 GS for a test ride. After I was found worthy enough, I finally got one. Compared to my old outworn R 1200 GS, I found the new R 1200 GS a bit stiff on the road, but rock steady. The additional 25 hp gave me a little smile. But in the end, that 2015 GS had to many little shortcomings for me. The engine ran a bit rough, the transmission was noisy, the driveshaft generated vibrations, the pipe was to loud for me and on that really hot summer day, the engine generated so much heat that it felt uncomfortable, the windshield got wobbly when the going got faster, the speedometer is to small, the rearview mirrors too ...

So, in the end - no new bike für me in 2015 !

This year, when the summer came, I needed a new bike bad. Really bad ! Same procedure. Again to the castle of the local BMW King, on my knees in the dust, ... please, pretty please your royal highness, lemme ride one of your precious R 1200 GS ! I know I'm just a blue collar worm and no dentist or M.D., but please give me one of your jewels.

I got a 2016 R 1200 GS. But man ! Was I disapointed. That bike had a stability problem. That came, as I learned after some research, from some new ( and for sure cheaper ) bearings.

My local BMW King gave me even a R 1200 GS Adventure for a test ride that day. The Adventure had a better stability, but not that rock steady feeling I had with the 2015 GS. And honest, that bride was just a bit to fat for me. But I liked that olive drab coulor or that particualar Adventure. That bike looked almost like a Leopard tank from ther German Army !!

So I climbed again my old 2005 GS - frustrated. Next day I went to the closest KTM Dealer. I got a 2016 KTM 1290 Super Adventure for a ride and fell in love immediately. What a lovely mean beast
I had tears of joy in my eyes - that flowed horizontal.

I guess the BMW crowd is very pleased, that I don't ruin their gentleman rider reputation anymore. All you guys with your fancy BWM driver suits, funny flip-up helmets and neon coloured safety vests - celebrate !

First thing I did, after I got my KTM from the dealer - I went to my grandchildren. Have you guys still that "My grandpa rides a BMW" T-Shirts ?
Yeah granpa !
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You can't fall in love with a recent, almost perfect BMW because they don't have much character. To love a BMW, I guess you must have the mindset of a german government offical
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Ah shucks ! I forgot that one !

We here have the saying : Do you still have S*X or do you ride a BMW ?

Any BMW owner should know at last that one
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because they sing line a singer sewing machine and ride like a gyroscope... Simply the best bikes out there for my hard earned money.
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