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The Battle over Captain America

Apparently there was and is a Yuuuge! battle over Captain America's pedigree.

Captain America, the bike ridden by Fonda in "Easy Rider."

http://www.maxim.com/entertainment/b...per-easy-rider


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What everyone seems to agree on is that the original one filmed is long gone. Parts of the stunt bike from the film may or may not be part of the ones being sold.

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Replicas abound.
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Replicas abound.
There is one in the Harley museum in Milwaukee. It is clearly marked as a replica.

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I saw a replica somewhere on display too, can't remember where, but it too was clearly marked replica. Still cool!
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My dealership had a replicate some time ago.

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Several years ago there was this guy that used to hang out at a private bar near Raleigh. He was a total dweeb, but was nice enough. He was one of those guys that always wants to talk about bikes at every freaking chance, as if there's nothing else in the world, and he would prattle on about cams and exhausts and other stuff he read about in his latest issue of "Easy Riders." He could get pretty annoying, but he was so enthusiastic and goofy you couldn't help but like him a bit.

Anyway, I guess he had some serious coins because he'd always been riding a metric cruiser of some sort, but one evening he showed up on a custom built Captain America replica. It was awesome! I'm no expert on the movie, (never seen the whole thing, end to end,) and no Panhead expert, but this bike looked to be VERY well done. It was an original Pan case, I remember that, and as far as I could see everything was done right and done well, with no cheap crap parts that I could see. (On the outside, anyway.)

The guy was proud as a peacock, and enjoyed all the attention. Good for him. But the night went on and got colder, and all fun things must come to an end, and gradually the place started to thin out. Cap'n America proudly went out to his bike, straddled the saddle, and kicked it over. And kicked it over. And kicked it. Kicked. Fussed with the throttle. Kicked. KICKED!

Nothing.

He walked back over to the edge of the deck and stood looking around for a minute at all of the tables. Then he walks up to our table and approaches the oldest, grizzliest looking guy there. The guy with the long grey beard, the arms covered in tattoos, the patches on all sides of his vest, and the pony-tail down to the middle of his back. He smiles sheepishly and says, "I can't seem to get my bike to start. Do you think you could help me out? I'll buy you a beer?"

How can you not like a fellow like that?
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So now please tell us....

the rest of the story!

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But the night went on and got colder, and all fun things must come to an end, and gradually the place started to thin out. Cap'n America proudly went out to his bike, straddled the saddle, and kicked it over. And kicked it over. And kicked it. Kicked. Fussed with the throttle. Kicked. KICKED!

Nothing.

He walked back over to the edge of the deck and stood looking around for a minute at all of the tables. Then he walks up to our table and approaches the oldest, grizzliest looking guy there. The guy with the long grey beard, the arms covered in tattoos, the patches on all sides of his vest, and the pony-tail down to the middle of his back. He smiles sheepishly and says, "I can't seem to get my bike to start. Do you think you could help me out? I'll buy you a beer?"

How can you not like a fellow like that?
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Not much more to tell. Bret went over and found out the Cap'n had forgotten to turn the switch on. After letting it sit and dry out a bit she fired right up. The poor little fellow was so happy he bought us all a round.

Free beer? You betcha!
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That is exactly what I though had happened. Still funny as heck maybe funnier because that was the reason.


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Ah man. I was hoping to here he went over there, set the retard correctly, kicked it twice and rode off with it.

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Not much more to tell. Bret went over and found out the Cap'n had forgotten to turn the switch on. After letting it sit and dry out a bit she fired right up. The poor little fellow was so happy he bought us all a round.

Free beer? You betcha!
Had he turned the Distributor back? ( retarded it)
Just curious, most folks aren't aware of that ( I know you are Eye)
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Apparently there was and is a Yuuuge! battle over Captain America's pedigree.

Captain America, the bike ridden by Fonda in "Easy Rider."

http://www.maxim.com/entertainment/b...per-easy-rider

BTW Wade, Isnt Dan Haggerty Dead now? I was thinking I saw somewhere he had passed away.
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Dan passed about a year ago.

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Had he turned the Distributor back? ( retarded it)
Just curious, most folks aren't aware of that ( I know you are Eye)
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I don't remember, Ed. I don't think it was that because I do remember the bike had the twist grip on the left to advance or retard the timing, and he was turning and twisting and trying all sorts of things.
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From what I know about physics and levers, wouldn't such a long fork put a whole lot of stress on the connection at the top as well as being subject to just bowing/bending with the weight of the rider + bounce? Interesting machine though - I bet it turns like a yacht.
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Agreed - like so many other things, built for looks and not comfort or practicality. Which is great! as long as that's understood.

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From what I know about physics and levers, wouldn't such a long fork put a whole lot of stress on the connection at the top as well as being subject to just bowing/bending with the weight of the rider + bounce? Interesting machine though - I bet it turns like a yacht.
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I thought the original Captain America had a springer front end. Guess I'm mistaken. I know it was a stretched for bouncy bouncy bike which is why I also thought it was a springer.

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From what I know about physics and levers, wouldn't such a long fork put a whole lot of stress on the connection at the top as well as being subject to just bowing/bending with the weight of the rider + bounce?
Which is exactly why you want someone building your frame that really KNOWS how to weld. And yes, those long front ends can bounce and jump a bit when you hit some bumps. To me it's a little unnerving when you notice it.
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Had to prove to myself it wasn't a springer.

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But it should have been a Springer.

At least with those, if they have the rockers at the right angle, will actually work.
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But it should have been a Springer.

At least with those, if they have the rockers at the right angle, will actually work.




Back in the day...( When I was young) I had a New Sportster which I proceeded to make a Chopper shortly after I bought it, Only smart thing I did was the King and Queen Seat! Stock '75 or '76 DSeat was HORRIBLE! Nothing but a Thin Pad! So bad I STILL remember it..LOL ( Cant remember now which year it was, it was THE 1000 CC, Electric Start, Shift on Left as all are now) anyway.....I put 8" over forks on it and of course being a young GI who spent most of his money at the "NCO Club" ( You'll have to ask Eye what that is! LMAO) I didn't mod the steering head/ Neck to get a better angle, so Bike was quite a BEAR to steer! Nowadays, no way I could do that! LOL...also put little aftermarket Square dual Headlights on it ( They went out as soon as it turned Dark LOL) and the rear was "Solid"....My old bones and Service Injuries would kill me if I tried to ride a bike like that now./ OK, Enough Rambling, I'll shut up!
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