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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-04-2016, 05:27 PM Thread Starter
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Dear Hog Group

Dear Hog Group,

I apologize for appearing to disrespect you. However, I must point out the following points.

Gears. Your motorcycle is equipped with them. On steep hills, it is both ineffective and rather silly to pin the throttle in 6th, dropping to 40 mph. Your bike is powerful enough to maintain it's speed up hills in the appropriate gear. It also sounds rather silly to be pinned at 1500 revs.

Passing Lanes. These are used to pass slow traffic such as yourself. It is not necessary for the group to ride in both lanes, preventing everyone from passing.

Curves. Curves aren't as scary as they appear. Motorcycles are capable of traversing curves at higher than the recommended speed. It is not necessary to slow to 30 mph on a 45 mph curve.

Passing Lanes, II. At the beginning of a passing lane it is not necessary to pin the throttle in the left lane if you have no one to pass. I have to pointed out how silly you sound pinning the throttle at low revs?
Aftermarket pipes. While your local dealer is happy to sell you aftermarket exhausts when you buy your bikes, you should ride it for a while to determine your individual needs. When pinning the throttle in 6th gear at 45 mph, a drinking straw would probably provide enough flow, making your pipes somewhat superfluous.

Tailgating. Since you didn't allow me to pass you in the passing lanes, I chose to ride close to you, hoping to pass. This was not a personal insult. The rude gesture was not called for. Trying to spitting on me isn't a terribly effective insult.

Aftermarket pipes II. Choosing to pull in your clutch and rev you engines was an odd choice. You are aware that when your clutch is pulled in, your bike slows down. This further impedes traffic and hurts their ears. Keep in mind that most people install aftermarket pipes to improve performance. At the speed you were going, this was unnecessary. Since aftermarket pipes on a Harley Davidson motorcycle are between $1000 and $3000, I hope you enjoyed the noise a lot.

Separation anxiety. When you impede traffic, cars will attempt to move past you. Sometimes, they will be briefly located between you and your buddies. This is nothing to panic about or get angry. Leave them alone and they will happily move on.

Power to weight ratio. While poor souls in small cars had to drive along in the congo line, this is unnecessary for something with the power to weight ratio of a motorcycle. You really didn't need to ride behind that truck for 6 miles. You could easily have passed him.

Passing Lanes III. I know you wanted to stay ahead of the traffic in that passing lane. Slamming on your brakes in the curve was probably a bit dangerous. You really freaked out that woman in the Cadillac. It would have been better if you weren't blocking both lanes.

Road Rage. Did you notice the nearby cars and trucks weren't treating you with respect? Did you notice most of them let the two gentlemen on BMW's by? Why do you think that was?
Waving. In the 45 minutes I spent behind you, I saw about 50 motorcyclists wave are you. You didn't respond once. Keep in mind that they are merely acknowledging the brotherhood of the motorcycle and not trying to make you gay.

Fun. You were riding $25,000 motorcycles and were miserable. You also made everyone miserable around you (except me, I was rather amused). Why ride if it's not fun?

I actually felt sorry for the group. Here they were, on their dream bikes, on the road. And it sucked. They were miserable, terrified and felt disrespected. I wish they would park their bikes for a year, buy a couple of 250 enduros, learn to ride, then get back to them.

Buying a bike gives you no cred, riding it well does.
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So to sum up, you mean waving to other bikers going by doesn't make you gay?

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Apparently, Ron, if someone doesn't wave some people get all butt-hurt.

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Lots of stereotypes in the post by CoffeedrinkerinNC.

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Dear Hog Group,

I apologize for appearing to disrespect you. However, I must point out the following points.

Gears. Your motorcycle is equipped with them. On steep hills, it is both ineffective and rather silly to pin the throttle in 6th, dropping to 40 mph. Your bike is powerful enough to maintain it's speed up hills in the appropriate gear. It also sounds rather silly to be pinned at 1500 revs.

Most HD riders know full well they should not lug their engines. When I rode one I rarely let the RPM fall below 2000 but at 2500 that engine has plenty of torque for normal riding.

Passing Lanes. These are used to pass slow traffic such as yourself. It is not necessary for the group to ride in both lanes, preventing everyone from passing.

Curves. Curves aren't as scary as they appear. Motorcycles are capable of traversing curves at higher than the recommended speed. It is not necessary to slow to 30 mph on a 45 mph curve.

A heavy bike can be scary at speed in a corner and a group that is trying to stay together means the leader needs to take all of the riders into account with his leading pace.

Passing Lanes, II. At the beginning of a passing lane it is not necessary to pin the throttle in the left lane if you have no one to pass. I have to pointed out how silly you sound pinning the throttle at low revs?
Aftermarket pipes. While your local dealer is happy to sell you aftermarket exhausts when you buy your bikes, you should ride it for a while to determine your individual needs. When pinning the throttle in 6th gear at 45 mph, a drinking straw would probably provide enough flow, making your pipes somewhat superfluous.

After market pipes are not thought by many to improve performance. They are intended to make the bike louder and maybe get to a better sound. "Loud pipes save lives" is often cited as a reason. No, I do not use a modified exhaust on my own large V-twin. My stock exhaust is actually pretty well tuned so I just use it. I do want some power.

Tailgating. Since you didn't allow me to pass you in the passing lanes, I chose to ride close to you, hoping to pass. This was not a personal insult. The rude gesture was not called for. Trying to spitting on me isn't a terribly effective insult.

Aftermarket pipes II. Choosing to pull in your clutch and rev you engines was an odd choice. You are aware that when your clutch is pulled in, your bike slows down. This further impedes traffic and hurts their ears. Keep in mind that most people install aftermarket pipes to improve performance. At the speed you were going, this was unnecessary. Since aftermarket pipes on a Harley Davidson motorcycle are between $1000 and $3000, I hope you enjoyed the noise a lot.

Separation anxiety. When you impede traffic, cars will attempt to move past you. Sometimes, they will be briefly located between you and your buddies. This is nothing to panic about or get angry. Leave them alone and they will happily move on.

Power to weight ratio. While poor souls in small cars had to drive along in the congo line, this is unnecessary for something with the power to weight ratio of a motorcycle. You really didn't need to ride behind that truck for 6 miles. You could easily have passed him.

Back to the lead rider trying to keep the group together, how do you get 30+ bikes past a truck all at once?

Passing Lanes III. I know you wanted to stay ahead of the traffic in that passing lane. Slamming on your brakes in the curve was probably a bit dangerous. You really freaked out that woman in the Cadillac. It would have been better if you weren't blocking both lanes.

Road Rage. Did you notice the nearby cars and trucks weren't treating you with respect? Did you notice most of them let the two gentlemen on BMW's by? Why do you think that was?

Do you realize that this post is showing lots of disrespect on your part?

Waving. In the 45 minutes I spent behind you, I saw about 50 motorcyclists wave are you. You didn't respond once. Keep in mind that they are merely acknowledging the brotherhood of the motorcycle and not trying to make you gay.

Waving is something I do now and did when I rode an HD. I am never upset if I do not get a return wave, it is just meant to be a friendly acknowledgement of similar tastes in transportation. Brotherhood? No, I wave because I am a friendly guy and those who wave back do so because they choose to.

Fun. You were riding $25,000 motorcycles and were miserable. You also made everyone miserable around you (except me, I was rather amused). Why ride if it's not fun?

What makes you think your definition of fun is everyone's definition? I enjoy riding solo or 2-up but do not really enjoy riding in a group of more than 3 or 4 bikes. Other people really do enjoy the social interaction of riding in a big group and that is just fine. To each, his own.

I actually felt sorry for the group. Here they were, on their dream bikes, on the road. And it sucked. They were miserable, terrified and felt disrespected. I wish they would park their bikes for a year, buy a couple of 250 enduros, learn to ride, then get back to them.

See my last comment. A fun ride is a ride done the way you like to do it. I know full well that my bike is capable of being ridden much harder than I ride it. I am not comfortable exceeding the posted limits around here although when I lived in SoCal I figured I could safely double anything I saw on a sign.

Buying a bike gives you no cred, riding it well does.
Riding fast is not riding well. It is riding fast.

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Riding fast is not rding well. It is riding fast.
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You might be on to something. The women I know have all said, "That sure was a fast ride." Maybe I didn't do it so well?

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A fun ride is a ride done the way you like to do it.
^^^ Truth.

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(And there were several other parts of Old Man's post I found to be spot-on, and damn good advice for anyone venturing out into this great big wide open world of motorcycling, but I didn't want to sit here and parse his text all to heck.)

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It was a funny story...............but a true story.....we each have our own ride to ride.
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Interesting that this particular rant was club specific (HOG riders). Much of the content could be applied to riders of any number of Makes & Models.

Personally? I think the being "spit" on part, is what got his gander up.

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Why didn't the person that saw this incident stop a few of the HOG riders and express his frustration and amusement to them in person instead of whining about it to total strangers?
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You also made everyone miserable around you (except me, I was rather amused).
The author was so amused he just had to write a short article to bitch and whine about something rather insignificant in life.
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You might be on to something. The women I know have all said, "That sure was a fast ride." Maybe I didn't do it so well?

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This is the best thing I've read so far today. +2 points.
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