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A couple of weeks ago I posted about my wife's first bike, a Vespa Scooter. Well... I never would have guessed, but I've been enjoying that thing as much as she has. Being a spirited rider, I never thought I'd ever enjoy the slower side of life on two wheels, but doing it on a little scooter, makes it fun and enjoyable. So, I went out and bought a low mileage Honda Scooter. We have a lot of Islands here off the west coast of Florida (Anna Maria Island, Sanibel Island, Pine Island, Captiva Island, Marco Island) and many many others. The best mode of transportation on these Islands are bikes and scooters. So we've formulated a plan to start doing scooter excursions. Maybe once or twice a month, we'll load the scoots on the trailer and head out to the islands and do some scooter excursions exploring some of these small communities and towns.

Anyway, the Vespa tops out at 40 mph, the best that I could do on the Honda was 37 MPH, and that was if I tucked my knees in behind the fairing. So it looks like I'm going to have some tweaking to do on the Honda to get them to match up as far as top speed is concerned. I plan on removing the restrictor plate behind the carb. That will help on out of the gate speed, but I'm not sure that it will do anything for top end speed. Any of you scooter veterans have any pointers as far as getting a couple more MPH's out of it? It has 900 miles on it, so its not like it needs a tune up yet. I've done all the basics and changed out the fluids and filters, so there's not much to do as far as maintenance. When I changed out the air filter, I thought about modifying the air box for better air flow, but I'll probably need to change out the filter to a high flow filter for that to have any effect. Is there anything else I can do to hit 40 mph on this little scoot. Both have 50cc four stroke motors. The Vespa is air cooled and the Honda is water/coolant cooled.


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How about changing the variator weights and springs to alter your "gear" ratio?
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How about changing the variator weights and springs to alter your "gear" ratio?
I think you're 100% right. After doing a little online research this morning (how to make your scooter faster), that seems to be the way to go. It looks pretty easy to do too.


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Looks like the bug has bitten you, will we have to change your name to scooterman?


Are you in the Ft. Myers area?


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Looks like the bug has bitten you, will we have to change your name to scooterman?


Are you in the Ft. Myers area?
LOL, yeah the bug maybe a little, but mostly because since being with my wife for the last 17 years, motorcycling was something that I enjoyed solo. She just doesn't and never liked motorcycles. But, every once in a while throughout those years, I'd hear her say to me or someone else that she would like a little red Vespa (I think she thinks of them as cute) but whenever I mentioned it, she would back away. The price was right, so I thought I'd surprise her with it, and it worked, she loves it. By me getting a scooter and scooting around with her on these little scooter excursions, its a way for me to finally do some two wheeling with her, even if its only doing 35 to 40 mph.

I have found that surprisingly I do enjoy it thou, its very different to me than a full size bike, so maybe the bug. But, I still enjoy the big bikes considerably more, scooters could never replace that enjoyment. My biggest worry with a scooter is being run over, they're slow and tiny, so very limited on riding locations like the ones I mentioned. She's still in training thou, not ready to do battle with traffic yet, but she is getting there.

I'm in the Brandon/Riverview area on the west coast, just south of Tampa and north of Sarasota. These Islands that I mentioned are all a half hour to a 2.5 hour drive from our house, so not too bad.


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It's always good to get some wife time. As long as she is happy with the scoot and you don't push her out of her comfort zone every should be fine.

I recognize the islands from when I was looking around Cape Coral to retire. grandkids put a stop to that.


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It's always good to get some wife time. As long as she is happy with the scoot and you don't push her out of her comfort zone every should be fine.

I recognize the islands from when I was looking around Cape Coral to retire. grandkids put a stop to that.
Oh no, Its too hot to retire here, it was 98 yesterday and suppose to be again today and possibly 100. I was born here, but I'm planning on retiring to North Carolina or Eastern Tennessee and leave this miserable, hot, humid, sticky weather behind. Not to mention the traffic jams, high crime and worlds worst drivers. Over population, crumbling infrastructure and too many people here straining the resources. Its a good thing you didn't retire here, you would have been miserable.

I just removed the carb and took out the restrictor plate between the carb and the intake. In the photo you can see how large the intake hole is in the ring on the plate, and how small it restricts it. Its made a big difference. Not only did it have more giddy up and go, but I was able to hit just at 41 MPH (by the speedo for what that's worth) with a strong cross wind. Now both scoots are pretty equal. Its probably going to drink a little more fuel, but at 100 mpg, whats 5 or 10 fewer miles per tank, its a fair trade off for 5 more miles per hour.


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I think you're 100% right. After doing a little online research this morning (how to make your scooter faster), that seems to be the way to go. It looks pretty easy to do too.
I worked in a shop that also sold scooters and we did a lot of "performance" mods, and the variator was a common one. I can't tell you which way to go with the weights and springs so you'd have to research it or talk to someone that really knows those machines, but I can tell you it is an easy mod to do.
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I worked in a shop that also sold scooters and we did a lot of "performance" mods, and the variator was a common one. I can't tell you which way to go with the weights and springs so you'd have to research it or talk to someone that really knows those machines, but I can tell you it is an easy mod to do.
After a little more research online, it looks like there are kits available that includes the variator, spring and the weights. It also looks like the weights range from 12 to 15 grams each, so I would assume that it doesn't take a lot of weight variation to make big differences in change because of the centrifugal force involved once you start accelerating. Like you said, I just need to talk to someone that can enlighten me a little, especially on the different weights effects.


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