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What impresses you?

What impresses you about other riders? Is is their smoothness? Straight up speed? Ability to back it in or slide or drift? Ability to learn tracks quickly or ride fast anywhere? Think of a rider you admire and explain what exactly it is that impresses you the most, and why?

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I'm always impressed when they don't crash into me.. that's a start.

I guess I look more at the type of bike they're riding - is it something interesting? That sort of thing.
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Smoothness, watching someone cutting perfect corners with ease time after time is amazing.
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I'm impressed by how quickly most new riders can pick up the basics of riding.

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Are they a nice person, interesting to talk too.
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The get back on and ride of those crazy guys that crash at Isle of Man TT. I've just not been the same rider after my crash and it really bugs me. Those guys have similar near death crashes and get back on and are just as crazy as before. Very impressed with that ability to put it behind them and go.
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Well Racing and Stunts Aside while I enjoy watching and impressed by the skills shown to be sure .. I think am more impressed by a few have met in life that Motorcycles was their way of life but never had to try to verbally prove it .. If they were not Riding, they were Wrenching or Cleaning .. All 3 of these done by themselves only, and all of them done well ..

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Professional TRIALS riders impress me as do Pro-Drag motorcycle riders and the Isle of Man TT riders. Most any track competition and especially the high flying Pro-Motocross riders impress me every time I watch them.

I have never been impressed watching a street bike rider, well maybe a few 'HOT' Harley CHICKS riding down Main ST, Rapid City, during the Sturgis rally---now that's impressive

Now this is impressive:

http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2017/01/...es-anyway.html

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I think what impresses me is people who buy a bike and actually take it out and RIDE it. At the end of the season, they can say "I've been to this place and that place and I put 10,000 miles on the bike this year.
I know guys who buy a bike and all the gear so they can ride to the bar on the weekend. That's about as far as that bike ever goes. On a beautiful summer morning, their bike is already parked at the bar as I go by. It's still there when I come home hours later.
Idiots. Posers.
You see these bikes for sale years later. A ten year old bike with 5 thousand or 10 thousand miles.
A friend of mine just bought a 98 Goldwing with 10,000 original miles. That's only about 550 miles a YEAR since it was new.
Yeah, right. I do that in a couple of weekends.
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This rider impresses me:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php...ecial%3ASearch

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I'm always impressed when someone buys a vintage survivor and has the common sense to leave it the f*@k alone. Who can enjoy it for what it is and represents, which is a bygone era that will never come back again. All the time understanding that what he hacks or modifies will never increase it's value, and he'll probably become sick of it soon himself, when realizing he's just created a POS.
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I used to race against some pretty fast guys, and they were always doing things that impressed me.
Getting out braked into a hairpin by Alan Seddon ( Sudden death Seddon )
Getting passed by the Canadian number 1 plate Jim Allen, on the inside of a sweeping down hill off camber corner. No fast rider had ever been passed there before.
Getting passed on the outside of a slow corner, in the pissing rain, by Steve Baker ( future 750 world champion ) going side ways on a 250 Yamaha 2 stroke race bike.
All these guys and a few others like Jim Dunn were very good, and very fast. My satisfaction comes from the fact, that I was at some point, in front of them.

At an October cross country race where we started in a farmers plowed field, and had to climb a local mountain with fresh snow on top, that had turned to ice, I got passed by Al Parret, doing about 50 on a 390 Husqvarna.

Many riders here, have a wealth of street and highway smarts. That impresses me too.

I have been around the IOM track, and had an ex bike I owned entered in the 500 race. The fast guys there are very good.

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I'm always impressed when someone buys a vintage survivor and has the common sense to leave it the f*@k alone. Who can enjoy it for what it is and represents, which is a bygone era that will never come back again. All the time understanding that what he hacks or modifies will never increase it's value, and he'll probably become sick of it soon himself, when realizing he's just created a POS.
+1000!!!!!!!!!!!
I hate seeing these young idiots cut up a nice old survivor and turn it into
a piece of ****.
I have two old survivors myself, a '77 Honda Trail 90 and '76 Goldwing.
Except for a few gadgets I added, they are now as they were 40 years ago.

I really enjoy pulling up somewhere and having someone say,
"Wow! I haven't seen one of those in years!!"

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I used to race against some pretty fast guys, and they were always doing things that impressed me.
Getting out braked into a hairpin by Alan Seddon ( Sudden death Seddon )
Getting passed by the Canadian number 1 plate Jim Allen, on the inside of a sweeping down hill off camber corner. No fast rider had ever been passed there before.
Getting passed on the outside of a slow corner, in the pissing rain, by Steve Baker ( future 750 world champion ) going side ways on a 250 Yamaha 2 stroke race bike.
All these guys and a few others like Jim Dunn were very good, and very fast. My satisfaction comes from the fact, that I was at some point, in front of them.

At an October cross country race where we started in a farmers plowed field, and had to climb a local mountain with fresh snow on top, that had turned to ice, I got passed by Al Parret, doing about 50 on a 390 Husqvarna.

Many riders here, have a wealth of street and highway smarts. That impresses me too.

I have been around the IOM track, and had an ex bike I owned entered in the 500 race. The fast guys there are very good.

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My thoughts as Jim Allen passed me were: You can't do that, maybe that is why he has the number 1 plate.
I was not far behind him at the end of the race.

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What impresses you about other riders? Is is their smoothness? Straight up speed? Ability to back it in or slide or drift? Ability to learn tracks quickly or ride fast anywhere? Think of a rider you admire and explain what exactly it is that impresses you the most, and why?
Watching someone take off smooothly from a stop and not "Wobble" or be doing 30mph and have feet still almost touching the ground hanging down on both sides. as they are getting up to speed. If I ride with someone who isnt smooth taking off, I stay far away as we are riding, to me that problem indicates a Lack of Confidence and lack of experience. Same holds true as to people stopping, if they are "Jerky" or wobble from side to side or arent "Smooth" ... etc.

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I'd say I'm more amazed, rather than "impressed," when I'm at a Harley dealership in the summer, and I see a motorcycle class going on, where a number of the riders are 400 pounds plus, sitting on a little 250cc bike!!

I would think that there would be weight restrictions required?!

God help those folks, when They get out on the road!!!!

As for "impressed," I am impressed by what is shown in the video previously posted in this thread, the police officers who do those competitions for motorcycle handling. But then again I've been impressed with the way the state troopers around here, handle their cruisers at highway speeds too!

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Here's a couple of 'Tubby' bikers that just passed the safety course Soup and they can't WEIGHT to join the Harley HOG chapter and buy a nice FAT BOY

Sorry, I couldn't find a picture of two Meth-heads that would bother you less than the Chubs below. They are probably in jail or dead

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Exactly what I've seen!!
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I have to go with DianneB. It is not just what those officers can do but what really impresses me is that they make it look so easy. They seem to just be out for a casual ride.


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.......they make it look so easy. They seem to just be out for a casual ride.
Yeah; at 100 mph!!

I'll have to ask my step-son, the CT State Trooper, why that is!

The other day, he had been working an accident scene, sitting in his Cruiser, with one of the car owners inside the cruiser, waiting for a tow truck, (not belted in of course, BECAUSE they were just sitting and waiting), when a drunken 20-something rear ended his Cruiser, sending he and the other person to the hospital.

Both are ok; concussions and sprained ankles were all that they suffered.

The "kid" survived the crash, and was slapped with a number of arrestible offenses. Lousy choices on his part, giving him a lousy start to his life, to be sure!!
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I have to go with DianneB. It is not just what those officers can do but what really impresses me is that they make it look so easy. They seem to just be out for a casual ride.
I used to watch the cops train in Vancouver BC, on their Harleys. Was early seventies. I was impressed at how they managed those big tanks. There were also a lot of dropped bikes.
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I really like the comment about being impressed by riders that have big crashes and are able to put it behind them and get back on the bike and still ride fast. My AMA teammate Josh Galster had a wicked crash at the end of 2008 in which he broke his neck and badly broke his wrist. He had to wear a halo for 3 months and go through extensive surgery and rehab on his wrist but he did so and went back to racing and coaching.

Another thing that impresses me is the ability for riders to ride fast on whatever bike at whatever track or whatever discipline. It's one thing to be fast on one bike at one track but to be able to switch it up and adapt and learn new tracks or styles quickly is quite amazing to me. What do you think it is that makes some people better at adapting and changing to different bikes, styles than others. Is it just seat time and experience or natural talent or both?
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I think developing a good sense for momentum and traction limits in general will help a rider move faster around any given track. I could make a good guess that the 500th lap around the same track on the same motorcycle will produce a shorter lap time than the first lap for just about anyone.
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The motogp guys managed to rack up over 1000 crashes this year. They all got back on.
With most sports, the rookies underestimate how good the good guys are. Try and keep up with them. It is not easy, it is about impossible.
They have natural physical ability in that all their parts work. But it is the brain that makes the difference at the sharp end. At that level they can all do most anything they want on a bike. Switching bikes is easy for an expert rider. They used to ride many bikes in different classes. Many of today's riders ( road race ) are fast in the dirt. This year's motogp first and second, are fast in the dirt.

Wayne Gardner rode a 500 Manx in the pissing rain and smoked everyone. That is not what he rode when he was actively racing.
Mike Hailwood returned to the Island after 11 years and broke the lap record on a bike he had never been on before, other than practice.

Steve Baker who I mentioned above, was a flat tracker. And the AMA of yesteryear required both road and dirt to be number one.

Cross country racing in mountainous areas, is a lot tougher than road racing. Just thought I would mention that. Much cheaper too.

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I really like the comment about being impressed by riders that have big crashes and are able to put it behind them and get back on the bike and still ride fast. My AMA teammate Josh Galster had a wicked crash at the end of 2008 in which he broke his neck and badly broke his wrist. He had to wear a halo for 3 months and go through extensive surgery and rehab on his wrist but he did so and went back to racing and coaching.

Another thing that impresses me is the ability for riders to ride fast on whatever bike at whatever track or whatever discipline. It's one thing to be fast on one bike at one track but to be able to switch it up and adapt and learn new tracks or styles quickly is quite amazing to me. What do you think it is that makes some people better at adapting and changing to different bikes, styles than others. Is it just seat time and experience or natural talent or both?
Might it be not fearing failure? No one wants to fail but I think there are different levels too. Those that have the ability to risk it all succeed. Most will only risk to a certain point. And the ability to learn from that last crash but still not let it hold you back is the difference. And generally it's the younger that have that bounce back ability. It's why the military doesn't want old farts.

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Mario Andretti was quoted as saying once.......something like, "unless you are on the edge of disaster, you are only a driver." (Close quote, but not exact, but you get the point, I'm sure)
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Might it be not fearing failure? No one wants to fail but I think there are different levels too. Those that have the ability to risk it all succeed. Most will only risk to a certain point. And the ability to learn from that last crash but still not let it hold you back is the difference. And generally it's the younger that have that bounce back ability. It's why the military doesn't want old farts.
I absolutely love what you say about being able to "learn from the last crash and not let it hold you back." this is amazing. It's true that way too many people crash and don't take the time or don't have the ability to pick apart and really learn from their last crash, and sometimes it's too difficult for them to jump back on the bike and as you say disregard the crash. This is key to improving in my opinion. I've had sooooo many students that have crashed in the past that kinda passed off the crash as just "something that happens" or something was wrong with the bike, or they hit gravel or it was the car's fault or whatever.....the ones that can really analyze what they may have done wrong to contribute to the crash are the ones that will learn from and improve upon it.
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I absolutely love what you say about being able to "learn from the last crash and not let it hold you back." this is amazing. It's true that way too many people crash and don't take the time or don't have the ability to pick apart and really learn from their last crash, and sometimes it's too difficult for them to jump back on the bike and as you say disregard the crash. This is key to improving in my opinion. I've had sooooo many students that have crashed in the past that kinda passed off the crash as just "something that happens" or something was wrong with the bike, or they hit gravel or it was the car's fault or whatever.....the ones that can really analyze what they may have done wrong to contribute to the crash are the ones that will learn from and improve upon it.
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Don't park my motorcycle in a wheel rut with the side stand up on the center hump. It looked fairly level enough at the time, but the bike only stayed up for about 20 seconds after dismounting.
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I've slowed down riding at night. I might know the roads, but I understand a lot better how limited vision is at night and how quickly wildlife can just appear out of nowhere. Common sense I guess - just had to learn it for myself.
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I've slowed down riding at night. I might know the roads, but I understand a lot better how limited vision is at night and how quickly wildlife can just appear out of nowhere. Common sense I guess - just had to learn it for myself.
Boy you got that right. I was on the road early a few days ago in the morning. It was still dark when I caught a glimpse of something running full bore about 12 - 15 feet in front at the fog line. If not for the spots I probably wouldn't have seen it at all. It was a coyote. No way would I miss it and I didn't have time at 75mph to even try. But for some reason he sudden made a 180 and threw dirt/dust trying to get away. Except for the heart stopping part it was quite comical.
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I think what impresses me is people who buy a bike and actually take it out and RIDE it. At the end of the season, they can say "I've been to this place and that place and I put 10,000 miles on the bike this year.
I know guys who buy a bike and all the gear so they can ride to the bar on the weekend. That's about as far as that bike ever goes. On a beautiful summer morning, their bike is already parked at the bar as I go by. It's still there when I come home hours later.
Idiots. Posers.
You see these bikes for sale years later. A ten year old bike with 5 thousand or 10 thousand miles.
A friend of mine just bought a 98 Goldwing with 10,000 original miles. That's only about 550 miles a YEAR since it was new.
Yeah, right. I do that in a couple of weekends.
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While I agree completely with your view of them, I'm glad those guys exist. Someone like that is why I was able to buy a 2007 V-Star with only 5500 miles on it that looks like it just rolled off the showroom floor, with some optional goodies installed, for less than half the price of a truly new one.
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Don't park my motorcycle in a wheel rut with the side stand up on the center hump. It looked fairly level enough at the time, but the bike only stayed up for about 20 seconds after dismounting.
I've done similar. We've probably all got at least one good story like that! I learned not to wear shoes with laces when I went to put my foot down at a stop and realized my laces were caught. Right over, into a ditch with the bike on top of me burning through my pants....thankfully friends were there to rescue me before I had a burned hole through my leg!

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I've slowed down riding at night. I might know the roads, but I understand a lot better how limited vision is at night and how quickly wildlife can just appear out of nowhere. Common sense I guess - just had to learn it for myself.
Good idea.

I also remember a few times saving myself from what previously would have resulted in a crash had I not had the skills to know what to do in the situation. Once was a very violent tank slapper that I had while chasing a student at a CSS school at Reno Fernly. There were some good bumps and I tried to race after my quick student and hit a bump which resulted in a violent bar bashing tank slapper- I actually knew what to do and I did it and I didn't crash. It was an amazing feeling to be able to consciously decide what to do and have it work.



Are there specific crashes you've avoided because you learned the proper skills?
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I actually knew what to do and I did it and I didn't crash. It was an amazing feeling to be able to consciously decide what to do and have it work.
Training, repetition, and drill - it may save your life someday!
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Absolutely. Give me an example of something that you have learned from motorcycle training that you have practiced and drilled enough that it has become second nature, that has improved your riding....

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