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cruiser tires.

It has been discussed here many times over I would think, but when I hit the search nothing comes up.

I'm looking to get some new tires for my VL800, they are still original (03) and have 12000km on them, the fronts are cupping, and the rear are at the wear bar, there is no signs of any cracks or dry rot that I can tell.

But it is time for a new set. What do most of you riders prefer? Been looking at Dunlop 404, but then I have no Idea what is good or bad. and price is a factor as well.

When I look on line the prices arnt bad , but the shipping suck, and when I shop local , well that such too, some want $280 for a rear tire

What would most of you suggest!
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I've had good luck with Dunlop 401 tires. (I think the unbranded equivalent is the Dunlop 402).

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super-happy with the Avon MC tires on my Yamaha cruiser.
would not ride with any others on my bike now.

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If price is a factor get any tire you can afford. Tires are like oil. Everyone has the only one that is good. Fact is, a cheap new tire is better than an old worn tire. You are just going to get less wear normally. I went Michelin Commander II's the last time and like them. Simply because they are supposed to get twice the mileage. However, I'm still considering going to car tire. Again because of mileage. I'm still undecided on that but the amount of gravel I ride I'm sure considering it.

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I LOVE the Michellin Defender II's on my '03 Heritage.
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All right did some local shopping here in our city and for the Michelin commander II they wanted $221.99 for the front.
The rear they wanted $285.99. plus tax All motorcycle shops were pretty much the same price within in a few dollars.

Went on line and bought tires @ canadasmotorcycle.ca

The front was $143.00 and the rear $178.80 plus tax

So my mind was made up pretty quick.
And it is free shipping as well.

The nice weather can come any day now.
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I am going to the Commander II, I found them for a decent price on the internet and are getting them put on next week.

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I like mine but they seem to need a higher pressure than the stock Dunlops did. I started at the recommended pressure and it really felt loose. Kept bumping it up and stopped at 42 front and 44 rear. Seems a lot go 42 front and rear though. You may find that a little harsh but I prefer that to a squirrelly feeling. It may be the softer sidewalls that make it feel that way and you may not feel it's that bad. I don't like it when things don't feel solid.

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I'm not going to recommend them, because frankly they don't have a great "wear" rating...........

That said however, and because my two-tone paint job would be enhanced by WWW (Wide White Wall) Tires......I'm finding out the sad truth that there is a very limited market available for those types of tires for my bike tire Sizes.

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Front: 120/90-17 4S
Rear: 170/80-15 M/C 77S

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...Shinko%2019719

The only company out there that I could find, after some research, was Shinko. They have WWW tires that are a tad bigger, (I believe they will still fit, on the 1998 Shadow ACE):

Shinko 777 # 19718 (Front)
Shinko 777 # 19179 (Rear)

Would I prefer Dunlop or some other better brand by rating? You bet! Just can't find them in the right size WWW.

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has anyone put a car tire on their c50? I'm needing tires too, thinking on putting a car tire on rear. mileage is what I'm looking at too.. 07 C50 is what I have.
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has anyone put a car tire on their c50? I'm needing tires too, thinking on putting a car tire on rear. mileage is what I'm looking at too.. 07 C50 is what I have.
Just go with the Michelin Commander II tire. I have ran 3 of them so far on my Vision and average 19K miles front and rear. I have also ridden a couple bikes with a car tire. They run fine down a straight road but feel different on a twisty road. Not bad but different.

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Have a look at the Dunlop Elite 3 tires. On my uber heavy Victory Vision I got 17k miles from my OEM set. Next Monday I am getting a new set but this time I am getting an MT version for the rear. The MT uses different rubber compounds for the center and sides of the tread. The center is harder for wear and the sides are stickier for cornering traction. I will soon know if they live up to the advertising.
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Two tires I recommend as being excellent from experience are the Pirelli MT66 and Avon Venom tires. I ran the Pirellis on my Shadow, and I have the Avons on my Max. Both of them provide good grip, excellent cornering, and decent ware.

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If price is a factor get any tire you can afford. Tires are like oil. Everyone has the only one that is good. Fact is, a cheap new tire is better than an old worn tire. You are just going to get less wear normally. I went Michelin Commander II's the last time and like them. Simply because they are supposed to get twice the mileage. However, I'm still considering going to car tire. Again because of mileage. I'm still undecided on that but the amount of gravel I ride I'm sure considering it.

Tried just about all of them and Michelin Commander II's are a Hard Act to follow..


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My Commander IIs are really holding up well. They are very sticky and smooth. Great set of tires

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Dunlop, Avon and Metzler all have good reviews in general terms. It really amounts to which tire matches your bike. Definitely go with whichever tire meets all of your needs, not just size. I need a particular size and capacity that is quite common in the industry but only a very few meet all of my nrrds.
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FWIW, I have Michelin Commander 2 tires front and a 200/55/17 Commander 2 on my Thunderbird SE A1, that carnival red special edition, 1600 cc and 812 pounds wet. The Commander 2 rear outlasted ANY Metzeler I had on the rear by at least 2-3k miles. The longest lasting tire on the front is the Avon Cobra, but I wanted a closely matched set if possible. The newer Metzeler 888 is supposed to last longer than the stock tire, but have not tried that one yet. Sticking with the Commander rear and then either the Commander front, or an Avon Cobra, depending on the how the front wears. Just my two cents worth on the Commander 2 tires. As the say, your mileage may vary. Ironically, I DID find out that the non-ethanol regular here runs great in my bike, better idle, a small amount more power and definitely better mileage. I would like to hang whoever thought of putting ethanol in gasoline. It rusts metal tanks, destroys some seals and soaks up water like a sponge. Being older than dirt, I also suspect this same person also moved the dimmer switch from the FLOOR to the steering column. :-)
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People seem to love or hate Dunlop. I had a pair. They were a-okay.

Metzler 880s were the best. I really felt like the bike all around handled better with them than any other. They go a lot of miles, too.
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I have a big bike (Yamaha cruiser, 1850 cc).

The front tire is a Metzeler. There are pro's and con's to Metz tires. You gotta know what you are dealing with. But I'm in So. California and the Metz works pretty well for me because the roads are dry here. Metz tires give excellent traction on DRY asphalt. But they are "h*ll on wheels" for damp asphalt and painted lines. All tires have problems. But the Metz tires will kick loose from the traction on the damp surfaces, painted lines, or if you give the front wheel a strong shimmy (on a greasy surface). Same thing also if you apply those front brakes sharply, and the asphalt is just a little damp - you can cause the Metz to break free from traction and BAM - you just hit the pavement. Metz tires need good SMOOTH handling. I have total confidence in that Metz tire for extreme riding on dry asphalt. It has never let me down.

Rear tire - AVON for sure. I wouldnt even go to any other tire. We run a wide tire on our bikes - the 240 Avon. Man, that tire is a great piece of work. Tough as nails, and it will handle anything you throw at it. It carries a lot of weight on the big cruiser, and it never fails. Avon has done great things with the rubber on their big cruiser tires.

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While planning on Commander II's which the size is available for the Scout when it's time, the OEM Kenda's which have a bit of bad Rep from a couple of reviews I have read , are not really that bad .. Have pushed them through the Turns and Curves at a pretty good rate and rode them in the Wet as well .. Others may do a bit better but not enough to Justify Dumping Perfectly Good tires for ..

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I like Dunlop tires!

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I have a big bike (Yamaha cruiser, 1850 cc).

The front tire is a Metzeler. There are pro's and con's to Metz tires. You gotta know what you are dealing with. But I'm in So. California and the Metz works pretty well for me because the roads are dry here. Metz tires give excellent traction on DRY asphalt. But they are "h*ll on wheels" for damp asphalt and painted lines. All tires have problems. But the Metz tires will kick loose from the traction on the damp surfaces, painted lines, or if you give the front wheel a strong shimmy (on a greasy surface). Same thing also if you apply those front brakes sharply, and the asphalt is just a little damp - you can cause the Metz to break free from traction and BAM - you just hit the pavement. Metz tires need good SMOOTH handling. I have total confidence in that Metz tire for extreme riding on dry asphalt. It has never let me down.

Rear tire - AVON for sure. I wouldnt even go to any other tire. We run a wide tire on our bikes - the 240 Avon. Man, that tire is a great piece of work. Tough as nails, and it will handle anything you throw at it. It carries a lot of weight on the big cruiser, and it never fails. Avon has done great things with the rubber on their big cruiser tires.

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After reading this, I think I have crossed Metzlers off my list....
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I like Dunlop tires!

I don't know about the tires, but your pic makes me want to ride down that road!
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A scenic one like that? Yep I do! You don't want to? Do you not like such roads? I don't ride a lot of dirt or gravel (if I did I would get a bike more suited to it) but I do occasionally turn down one to see what I can see. They are not dirt bike trails, they are roads.
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It was very scenic!! I think I will go back to that area next fall.

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The road less traveled is the reason I use a Dunlop Winter Sport. 13 mile "short cut" in Canada.

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With the millions of miles of paved and beautiful roads in the U.S., I choose them to ride on with the type of bike I have. On trips I take, I always choose the back roads and only take freeways/turnpikes when there is no other choice.

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Just to add, I like the off-road back trails, too, but I do those with my ATV or RZR.

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The picture in Canada isn't a trail it's "the road".

This is a highway, the Dalton Highway and it's the only way to the top of Alaska -

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The view of the back of the bike says a lot.....but the view in front of the bike says so much more. Sadly most riders will never see that in person. We must live the ride to Alaska and a lot of other places through what Rollin and a few others share with us.
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Granted the scenery in Alaska is fantastic, but it is a long way away. You can see magnificent mountain scenes in western Wyoming, or along the Beartooth highway in Montana, or through parts of northern Idaho, or over the Cascades in Washington, or eastbound from the coast of northern California. (I just did those this last summer.) There are thousands of miles of these roads just here in the continental U.S.

Heck, even near my summer home in western Colorado I can be up in the Rockies in an hour with overlooks of valleys and along high peaks. Or an hour in another direction down a glacially carved wide valley and along multi-colored sandstone layers of bare rock along a river. I like it.

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A quick comment. I also think it's great when someone shares their photos of an Alaska trip or some other great place they traveled. It is always instrumental in stirring the wanderlust of others and hopefully get them to get out on their bikes and see the sights all over.

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The view of the back of the bike says a lot.....but the view in front of the bike says so much more. Sadly most riders will never see that in person. We must live the ride to Alaska and a lot of other places through what Rollin and a few others share with us.
I have a lot of stories. The stories are my favorite part of the rides, and the extremes, good or bad, are the part of the ride you never forget.

Rides with an est have also become a goal for me. Highest. lowest, furthest and others. I found another est ride for next year, I can't wait to try it!
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A quick comment. I also think it's great when someone shares their photos of an Alaska trip or some other great place they traveled. It is always instrumental in stirring the wanderlust of others and hopefully get them to get out on their bikes and see the sights all over.

Plus, apparently it didn't hurt the bike any.

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I was expecting damage but not even a scratch on that ride just a few stone chips on the fork. I did wash the bike a lot.

There's more than scenery in northern Alaska, there's a feeling that's hard to explain. It's kind of like you've gone back in time and it's just you and the bike.
It's huge and so remote. You can ride for hours and not see another person, it can be more that 200 miles between gas stops and the roads can be so challenging. Even the paved parts are dangerous, there's frost heaves, pot holes, broken pavement and dips that will throw you off the bike. It changes from gravel to pavement to gravel without notice.
You need to be very careful, it can be a 500 mile ride to the nearest hospital. After you leave Fairbanks your cell phone will not work until you reach Prudhoe Bay, that's 500 miles.
Reaching the top felt like an accomplishment.

I hope I can go back there some day.

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pretty roads .. but I don't do dirt or gravel on my bike!

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My front tire is also awesome! Shinko 700 Series

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