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Riding without a license plate on a newly bought bike.

I did it last year but it just had an expired paper plate. This upcoming April im planning to get another bike and I was wondering what i could do if there isnt a DMV nearby the bike owner's house. Can i just tell the police officer that i just bought the bike and show him the paper work if i get pulled over? Would i still get a ticket?
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If you have the paperwork to show you just bought it he can't give you a ticket. You've got 30 days from the day of purchase to license and register it.
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Justin is right I do believe, but I do recommend getting it registered and insured as quickly as possible.
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It depends on the state. Some have a grace period for registration and others (like Illinois) don't. To properly register a bike here you have to leave it parked until you go down and get the temp plate at the DMV or a license service.
I'd give a call to the local DMV to see what the laws are there before making assumptions.

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NJ would not only ticket you, but probably impound it as well....

What i did was, I had a friend in a cage follow me at night, and rode it home...

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Yeah, I had mine all registered before I brought it home, but thats because I decided I did not wish to take any chances. That, and I had a convention I was goin to the next day, and I was bloody determined to ride down there on it!
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The guy I bought my bike from was kind enough to ride it to my house for me, (I hadn't ridden motorcycles beyond the MSF course at this point) and then he took his plate when he left. Got my own plates soon thereafter.

As Dods said, it depends on the state. In OH you cannot operate any vehicle unless it's registered and has at least temp tags. Although, it might also depend on the officer that catches you, and the kind of day he's having.
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Oh, darn. I live in ohio.
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Here (CA) the plate goes with the bike, so no one can tell you just bought it, if you can ride ok. (Some people may ride it like they just bought it).
You have ten days to get it registered in your name. But you should never move the bike without getting your insurance ... FIRST. Before you move it. You do not want to be in an accident without insurance. You are definitely caught then (ins. is required here) and it is a big fine, and can affect who has to pay for what, and can affect your license.
The only time you have a bike without a plate here, is, if it was salvage, or if it is new from the dealer. Then you have 30 days to put your plates on, but usually the dmv doesn't mail the plates til 40 days.
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In ND the plate stays with the previous owner. You have to get a temp tag from the D.O.T. and display that until your new plates arrive. If you get a grace period here it is only because the officer is in a good mood.
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The guys talking about insurance are correct. It does not matter what state you live in, you MUST have insurance on the bike if you are riding it. A quick call to your company and its ready to go so its not a whole lot of trouble. You will just need the frame vin number, year, make and model.

As for the plate, it depends on your state and I believe Ohio is a must-plate state. Easiest thing to do is either see if the guy will let you use the current plate on the bike to get it home or borrow a friends. Then get it registered asap.

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As far as insurance goes I found that my insurance (state farm) has different grace periods for cars and bikes. They will automatically insure a new bike, but only for 5 days, then I have to let them know about it.
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My State Farm agent told me 14 days, at least if I'm trading my bike in for another. Guess that probably varies state to state then
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In ND the plate stays with the previous owner. You have to get a temp tag from the D.O.T. and display that until your new plates arrive. If you get a grace period here it is only because the officer is in a good mood.
I thought you just had to fill out the back of the registration certificate and tape it to the plate holder while waiting for the gears of the state to grind away.

Personally, I'm a fan of SD registration though. Just go to your local county treasurer's office, pay money, receive plate. They'll hook you up with a plate and registration faster than Lens Crafters will hook you up with glasses! ND wasn't quite as awesome, in my opinion. It usually took 1 to 7 days longer to receive your plate in the mail than you had on your temporary plate. And I lived in the capital for crying out loud!

Edit: want to add a bit on the insurance too. I get my insurance through Allied and I too get a short grace period. But if I fail to notify them during the grace period, I'm SOL.

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basically i think the general rule of thumb is no plate you get in trouble. they do make trailers, the cop would probably tell you to trailer it home not ride it.
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As for the plate, it depends on your state and I believe Ohio is a must-plate state. Easiest thing to do is either see if the guy will let you use the current plate on the bike to get it home or borrow a friends.
Uh, I wouldn't borrow a friend's plate. That's just asking for trouble if a cop runs your plates for some reason. That would look real suspicious in my opinion...

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not having paperwork all squared away with automobiles is a bad idea.. you can argue a speeding ticket in court.. Don't register/inspect and you are at the mercy of the judge.
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ok so does anyone know the grace period details etc for NY?? I traded for my bike 3/28 and have not registered or titled it yet. Dont have the money right now!
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It's generally 30days, at least that's what it is in NE.
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So what happens after the 30 days??
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Interest / penalties on the sales tax. The registration doesn't have to be done then, but you gotta pay the sales tax, so if you can afford that, pay that and register the bike later.
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I had the same ilegal ride home when I bought my bike. Even followed a sheriff for about 5 miles.

Did I mention I had not gotten my updated license with my cycle endorsement back yet, and it was my first ride on the "real' road ?

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The guys talking about insurance are correct. It does not matter what state you live in, you MUST have insurance on the bike if you are riding it.
Your incorrect....there are a few states where you do not have to license motorcycles.

Florida is one that does not.
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The guys talking about insurance are correct. It does not matter what state you live in, you MUST have insurance on the bike if you are riding it. A quick call to your company and its ready to go so its not a whole lot of trouble. You will just need the frame vin number, year, make and model.

As for the plate, it depends on your state and I believe Ohio is a must-plate state. Easiest thing to do is either see if the guy will let you use the current plate on the bike to get it home or borrow a friends. Then get it registered asap.
In FL if u own the bike with no payments you do not have to have insurance on the bike but u better have a legal tag and license or you are done for they will take the bike and fine you with a hefty fine
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In FL if u own the bike with no payments you do not have to have insurance on the bike but u better have a legal tag and license or you are done for they will take the bike and fine you with a hefty fine
Exactly correct about Fl, insurance not rquired but tags are a must.

Don't ride with borrowed tag, that's called an unassigned tag and you will go to jail, been there done that, and the tag was from one of my own vehicles.

Ca. is very different, need tag before insurance. Experienced this quite recently, agent said to register then return for ins. Inquired at the DMV if it was legal to drive and the response was affirmative. Absolutely crazy!
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ok so does anyone know the grace period details etc for NY?? I traded for my bike 3/28 and have not registered or titled it yet. Dont have the money right now!
There is no grace period in NY, all Motor Vehicles operated on a public highway have to be Registered, Insured and Inspected.
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I had my bike without license parked in my complex for almost a week. I got a note from the local sheriff warning me that I could get a ticket.
Don't take any chances go to the local DMV office they will give you a TAG right there on the spot.
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Same in Illinois - no plate - do not drive.

FWIW - we went to the DMV, and as soon as we title'd the bike, and paid the taxes, we got the plate right then & there. Of course, we didn't opt for the personalized - but we got the plate the same time we paid for it.

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I bought a motorcycle that was For Sale By Owner in Connecticut, and then drove it to New York with no license plate (the seller told me that this was not illegal, and to show the Connecticut registration paperwork if the cops chose to pull me over). It doesn't matter, because I never got caught.
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This probably won't help ya much, but I just bought a new bike this past August and of course I got the paper plate. It was good to ride home on and like 31 days....anyway, at our BMV I go to register it, plate it and they of course take the money but get no plate.....In Indiana now, all plates for bikes come in the mail.....so I basically rode around on my paper longer than normal with a piece of paper in my billfold that said the temporary plate would be good until I received my regular plate....seems kinda weird that the license branch doesn't have plates, but oh well.....and also, here the dealer wouldn't release the bike for me to ride home without proof of insurance....said if I had a trailer I could have taken it, but no insurance, no bike...(to ride home on anyway).....
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In georgia you have 30 days to get a tag, within the 30 days you can ride around with the temp tag from the dealer. Tennessee has the same law too!!
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In PA i think it is only 10 days.
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In PA you have 0 days. But normally you would get the tag at the same time you do the title transfer. If you show an existing policy for proof of insurance, you have 10 business days to get the policy updated, retroactive to the date of transfer.
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I did it last year but it just had an expired paper plate. This upcoming April im planning to get another bike and I was wondering what i could do if there isnt a DMV nearby the bike owner's house. Can i just tell the police officer that i just bought the bike and show him the paper work if i get pulled over? Would i still get a ticket?
It depends on the state you live in but definitely for no insurance. Anything can happen & a ticket for no isurance is the least of your worries.
You have several options. The 1st 2 depends on what you have or who you know that can help you. The last is by far the easiers thing to do.

1. trailer it
2. haul it in a pickup bed
3. have the current owner drive it to your house with his tags.

If the bike is currently unregistered & off the road, I would be concerned about roadworthness on a long haul until you checked it all out.
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In PA you have 0 days. But normally you would get the tag at the same time you do the title transfer. If you show an existing policy for proof of insurance, you have 10 business days to get the policy updated, retroactive to the date of transfer.
Ah thats what I was thinking of. 10 days seams reasonable to me to get insurance sorted out.
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It depends on the state you live in but definitely for no insurance. Anything can happen & a ticket for no isurance is the least of your worries.
You have several options. The 1st 2 depends on what you have or who you know that can help you. The last is by far the easiers thing to do.

1. trailer it
2. haul it in a pickup bed
3. have the current owner drive it to your house with his tags.

If the bike is currently unregistered & off the road, I would be concerned about roadworthness on a long haul until you checked it all out.
When I was fixing cars for a living, I got pulled over driving a customers car. The customer didn't have insurance on the car and I LOST MY DRIVERS LICENSE for 30 days!!!!!!!

In Pa, you don't have to register the vehicle right away. You don't have to transfer the title right away. (you pay taxes when you transfer the title) What ever you do, do not operate a motor vehicle on a public roadway without current insurance.

I have heard of cops giving people a "break" when they just bought a car/truck/bike from a private seller but I wouldn't bank on it...
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In Pa, you don't have to register the vehicle right away.
100% correct, just don't get caught on the road with it.

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You don't have to transfer the title right away. (you pay taxes when you transfer the title)
NOT a good idea unless you have an in with a notary or plan to part it out and scrap what ever is left. Spoiled titles are a PITA.


While on the subject of taxes. Don't play the game, "hay, lets tell them I paid $3,000 instead of $4,000" if you plan to sell the vehicle later. If you sell it later for 3,500 the IRS will want to see some money come April 15th. The state will report your $500 gain to the feds.
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