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Won't Be Long Now!!

Still riding, but the temps and calendar are continuing to remind me that this years riding season is coming rapidly to a close.

I guess I won't be in South Carolina any time soon, which would improve my riding opportunities, but stay tuned.

As for the election last night...............I abstain from comment.

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I don't abstain---I proclaim: Way to go President elect Trump!

I am glad that the most corrupt regime in my memory and in my opinion, has 'fallen and can't get up!'

It is time that the 'grown ups' take the reins of this country and lead by intelligence and not by misguided emotions.

Hillary will be fine as she will still be able to skim the 'cream off the top' of her wonderful "Non-profit front," The CLINTON foundation

3 MILLION dollar wedding for her Daughter paid by this "Nonprofit" charitable foundation--stories are all over the Web:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...AlPGk5N9dBsM8A

This 'organized crime' fiasco should be stripped of it's non-profit status:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charit...#United_States

It's getting too cold to ride here also as frost is on the pumpkin---literally.

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Riding season is just about over here as well. There might be another couple weeks of tolerable weather. It has been a great fall so far.

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I actually went out for a ride yesterday. Actually two rides, an emotional ride last night watching the results.

One thing that amazed me, was how within minutes of the polls closing and 9% of the votes counted, all of California's 55 electoral votes were projected for Clinton. I believe it was the only time she was ahead all night


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Sorry to hear that the riding season is coming to an end for our northern friends, But the endless riding season here in Florida is just about perfect now. Temps in the 60's at night and upper 70's during the day with an occasional 80 to 83 degrees popping in there every now and then. Should be like this until April.


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I don't abstain---I proclaim: Way to go President elect Trump!
Don't celebrate too soon. Nothing's technically official. The US has not elected a President. We've elected the electors. Until THEY meet and cast their votes, nothing is official. They don't HAVE to elect him.

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I see you, and raise you a Nixon. Only President in history to actively resign position.

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The only thing I'll say here, is that Trump is no more a saint on the topic of skimming the cream. He's done some mighty shady dealings in his own right.

Regardless, it is what it is. We'll see what kind of President he turns out to be, if the electors decide to make us.

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I see you, and raise you a Nixon. Only President in history to actively resign position.
What Nixon did doesn't even come close to Hillary's server. The only reason we read about Watergate is because Democrats were victims.

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Trump at least was dealing in real estate and selling other products/services while using his own money. What was Clinton selling? How does one become a millionaire while being a government employee? Your assertions are specious, at best.

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What Nixon did doesn't even come close to Hillary's server. The only reason we read about Watergate is because Democrats were victims.



Trump at least was dealing in real estate and selling other products/services while using his own money. What was Clinton selling? How does one become a millionaire while being a government employee? Your assertions are specious, at best.
Trump is a documented con-artist. He's known to buy businesses, kill them, and liquidate assets for personal profit. All by selling people on his charisma. He's also apparently a tax-evader. And that's not even getting into him intentionally walking in on contestants for his pageant.

He's no saint. Is he better than Clinton? I'll buy that. But only marginally.

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Definitely starting to cool down and the comfort level is decreasing and requiring more clothing. I hope to still enjoy an occasional ride as possible all winter, but I know from here on out they will be fewer and farther between.


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He's no saint. Is he better than Clinton? I'll buy that. But only marginally.
True statement my friend; was not a choice of who I like more but more so a choice of who I didn't like the least.
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What Trump has done was on his own dime, and generally accepted business practices. If he failed at any adventure he failed, end of it.
Happens all the time in business. You have the right to succeed, you have the right to fail.
When Fanny May has a loss that saves them from paying taxes for many years, no one says peep. When Donald does what millions in business do, that is claim a loss, it is suddenly a loop hole or worse. Up here and elsewhere, you can only claim a capitol loss against a capitol gain. That is the tax act as it is written. you are not a criminal for applying the tax act correctly.

What Hillary has done was on the tax payers dime. You was supposed to be representing her country in a competent manner. She failed in many ways. Separate the issues, and analyse them, which is what many in the rural areas were able to do.
This is an opinion. Many folks do not feel better off after 8 years of the Big Owe. $10 trillion debt when he started, $20 trillion when he leaves.
A medical plan that failed, foreign policy that failed. More racial tension than when he started.
Did you really want Hillary and Putin banging heads. For the first time in my memory, we have an ex commie and Trump, that might get along okay. That in itself is a big enough achievement.

My red neck tractor buddies are quite pleased with the results. They do well keeping up with the issues.

We had record rain in October, about 7.5 inches. Early today it was raining, then foggy, then sunny and warm. I took some scrap metal in the sidecar, to the recycle place, so was on the big island for a while.

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Yeap, the best riding weather is just getting going around here.
Well now, I am officially jealous. it's about time or the bike to sit in the garage. The only exception is warmer days when the roads are dry. I have always wanted to ride and see the green on Christmas day.
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As for the election last night...............I abstain from comment.
Did not stop the rest of the crowd, eh?

Since the topic seems open, why wasn't the primary rig job a huge story? And, were the polls juiced, or were the pollsters just incompetent?

As far as the weather, I also am set to enjoy six months of awesomeness here in Florida.
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At least now that the election is over we can all go back to using Facebook for what it was intended for: posting pictures of what we had for dinner and cool motorcycles.
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For me, riding season never ends. I have errands to run this evening and the bike will still start so that is what I will be using.


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Definitely starting to cool down and the comfort level is decreasing and requiring more clothing. I hope to still enjoy an occasional ride as possible all winter, but I know from here on out they will be fewer and farther between.




True statement my friend; was not a choice of who I like more but more so a choice of who I didn't like the least.
The funny thing is, even some of the most loyal Trumpets I know, mirror this sentiment. They readily acknowledge that they aren't loyal because he's "the right guy for the job", but because he's the best of the worst.

I also happen to know that a few of them's ONLY reason for voting against Hillary, is because of Benghazi. Literally nothing else. Not because of political alignments. Hell, they might agree with her, entirely. But Benghazi.

Mind you, that's entirely fair. And it's a big part of why I didn't vote for her ( among a number of other things ). But I didn't vote Trump, either. When asked by a coworker why I voted Johnson, my response was simply, "I'm not going to choose which one of my ( testicles ) gets smashed with a hammer, if I can choose neither."

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Don't forget the selfies, and airing dirty laundry.

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What Trump has done was on his own dime, and generally accepted business practices. If he failed at any adventure he failed, end of it.
Happens all the time in business. You have the right to succeed, you have the right to fail.
When Fanny May has a loss that saves them from paying taxes for many years, no one says peep. When Donald does what millions in business do, that is claim a loss, it is suddenly a loop hole or worse. Up here and elsewhere, you can only claim a capitol loss against a capitol gain. That is the tax act as it is written. you are not a criminal for applying the tax act correctly.

What Hillary has done was on the tax payers dime. You was supposed to be representing her country in a competent manner. She failed in many ways. Separate the issues, and analyse them, which is what many in the rural areas were able to do.
This is an opinion. Many folks do not feel better off after 8 years of the Big Owe. $10 trillion debt when he started, $20 trillion when he leaves.
A medical plan that failed, foreign policy that failed. More racial tension than when he started.
Did you really want Hillary and Putin banging heads. For the first time in my memory, we have an ex commie and Trump, that might get along okay. That in itself is a big enough achievement.

My red neck tractor buddies are quite pleased with the results. They do well keeping up with the issues.

We had record rain in October, about 7.5 inches. Early today it was raining, then foggy, then sunny and warm. I took some scrap metal in the sidecar, to the recycle place, so was on the big island for a while.

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Being legal doesn't make it any less a con. He has a record of intentionally building or acquiring ventures specifically to kill them, and take a net gain from liquidation. That's why his ideas are so abstract, and doomed to fail. They're MEANT to be. He's playing the system. Even now, his "wall" is and was nothing but a scam. He told republicans what they wanted to hear, to get their vote. He's not building a wall. He CAN'T. He doesn't even have a plan. I'm sorry, but "Mexico is going to pay for it" is not a plan. He can not make that happen. And he has no intention to. It was just a quick way to sidestep having to answer the "how", when pushed to defend his false promise.

Being "standard business" doesn't substitute ethics.

Also, I'm not fond of his stances on select groups of human beings and their rights. Pence's, either. I'm legitimately terrified for dear friends of mine who don't fit the "majority" mold. I'm lucky enough to be a cisgendered, heterosexual, white, Christian, born citizen male. I'm untouchable. But them....

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Interesting to see Nixon's name evoked. Let's see......masterminding a break in, at a hotel, for purposes of espionage......the same level of crime?

I'm still out there riding; just have to be a bit more selective is all, and the riding window is shorter during each day, as relates to the temperature.

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Oh, he did more than that. That was just the nail in the coffin. They've found a lot more dirt on him since that time. Decade after decade later.

Though I'll admit, he never got anyone killed, to my knowledge. So I suppose I can call that a fair point.

Regardless, we can throw Bush II somewhere on that list, as well. Started an arguably illegal war effort ( which killed MANY ) based on lies, and enacted the Patriot Act. The single largest official breech of Constitution in US history.

So even without Nixon, I don't think we can rightly call Clinton the pinnacle of corruption. Even if she's a terrible human being in her own right. It's a pretty tight race.

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Also, I'm not fond of his stances on select groups of human beings and their rights. Pence's, either. I'm legitimately terrified for dear friends of mine who don't fit the "majority" mold. I'm lucky enough to be a cisgendered, heterosexual, white, Christian, born citizen male. I'm untouchable. But them....

So you and your friends are victims of the left's unrealistic propaganda too, eh?

Well, y'all shouldn't quake over it too much. As long as you're not criminals you're probably going to be okay.
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Here in northern Illinois we are rapidly cooling down. I went out for a ride yesterday (one of the nice things about being retired!) when it was in the low 50's and used my heated grips for the first time. I'm not quite ready to add the Stabil, stuff rags in the pipes, hook up the Battery Tender, and put the cover on the bike but I think its getting close to doing so. Every year I vow to wash and wax the bike before putting it away, but most years when it is still warm enough to wash it, I want to get a ride in instead. So in the end I sort of wash off the worst of the crud and just vow to wash it the next spring, which I end up possible doing, or not doing. Since I have been trading in and buying a new bike every few years the lack of washing hasn't really affected me at all, but now that I have what looks like my final bike maybe I need to be more diligent.

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Tax evader? Hardly. Did he take LEGAL deductions? Yep. I wish lefties would learn about all the different types of taxes he did pay. But I can understand why you guys would only know about the income tax, because it's the only form of revenue most of you have ever known.

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Riding season ends? Thanks to good weather mine never ended last year, I think I had a 2 weeks break while some annoying white crap melted but that was about it. Not bad for Pennsyvlania! I hope this year is similar!
This might be the only thing I like about global warming :-P

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I filled the tank with gas and brought the bike home, figuring that if the weather got really nasty, at least I'd be ready to add the StaBil and get it up on the lift.

Even with temps in the mid 40s to the low 50s, wearing the right gear and having a Faring and windshield and so forth, really helps!

We could still potentially have some decent weather for riding, so I hesitate to put it up for the winter yet.

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Trump is a documented con-artist. He's known to buy businesses, kill them, and liquidate assets for personal profit. All by selling people on his charisma. He's also apparently a tax-evader. And that's not even getting into him intentionally walking in on contestants for his pageant.

He's no saint. Is he better than Clinton? I'll buy that. But only marginally.
Hmmm, apparently somebody has been watching too much slanted left wing CNN & MSNBC. I watched all three FOX, CNN & MSNBC, channel surfing between the three all night. It was just amazing to see the very different spins on the same delegate counts & returns based on their own agendas.
As far as buying and liquidating bad businesses, there are a lot of corporations out there that are in business to do the same thing. Nothing illegal or immoral about that, its been going on for over a hundred years.

As far as the Clintons and their money. Thanks to Weikileaks, its now public record that since Hillary Clinton became Secretary of State, Saudi Arabia has given the foundation between 15 and 25 million dollars. The kings of Morroco, Oman, and Yemen have give tens of millions of dollars. Saudi Billionaire Sheik Mohammed Alamoudi has given between 5 & 10 million himself. This is just a very small portion that has become known. Can you imagine if she had won the election, how these so called donors would have collected on these generous donations, and you know that they were counting on it. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this one out, and to know how the Clintons accumulated a 100 million dollar worth in this short period, and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know who is really the immoral and criminal one between the two. To put it bluntly, she was very carelessly selling America for personal gain.

Now, its continued with the next Clinton Generation. Chelsea is now worth 15 million dollars, and that doesn't include her husbands own worth of 15 million. Also thanks to Weikileaks, a Hillary Clinton aides email states that the Clinton Foundation paid for Chelsea’s 3 million dollar wedding. This crap just keeps coming and coming, and thats why the foundation is now under FBI & IRS investigation. I'm not a big Trumph fan either, He definitely has his flaws. Many of the people who voted for him wasn't either. But between the two, the lessor of the two evils won, and that's a good thing.


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You got me confused KK. Are you saying Trump did things that were not legal or you just don't like the fact he took advantage of legal loop holes set in place??? Did what he come close to what the Clintons have done and is what they've done legal as well.
Frankly, I don't support people who take "little loopholes" like that. Especially when they do so by killing jobs ( and then claiming in politics to create more ), and profiting off of the intentional sabotage thereof. And even if it's legal, it's still immoral, in my opinion. And more importantly, not a great platform by which to run a country. Makes me wonder if he'll run the country the way he's ran his business ventures. Are we going to be sold back to the UK? Maybe China?

Also, his pride in his misogynist conquests is not becoming. And when he apologized for what he had said ( you know the line, which can't be properly repeated here ), he was not apologizing for what he said. He was apologizing for being found out. And more importantly, even THAT wasn't a sincere apology. It was damage control. All his money won't sell that to me.

And generally speaking, he's a terrible human being. As the saying goes, he was born on 3rd base, but insists he hit a triple, and he's entirely removed from reality, because rich people can afford to ignore reality.

And the worst part, the people who elected him, did so for the idea of sticking it to the elite, ruling class, rich establishment. Through an elitist, ruling class, rich guy. Sound logic. It sounds to me like he's selling snake oil, and people are buying it.

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Hmmm, apparently somebody has been watching too much slanted left wing CNN & MSNBC. I watched all three FOX, CNN & MSNBC, channel surfing between the three all night. It was just amazing to see the very different spins on the same delegate counts & returns based on their own agendas.
As far as buying and liquidating bad businesses, there are a lot of corporations out there that are in business to do the same thing. Nothing illegal or immoral about that, its been going on for over a hundred years.

As far as the Clintons and their money. Thanks to Weikileaks, its now public record that since Hillary Clinton became Secretary of State, Saudi Arabia has given the foundation between 15 and 25 million dollars. The kings of Morroco, Oman, and Yemen have give tens of millions of dollars. Saudi Billionaire Sheik Mohammed Alamoudi has given between 5 & 10 million himself. This is just a very small portion that has become known. Can you imagine if she had won the election, how these so called donors would have collected on these generous donations, and you know that they were counting on it. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this one out, and to know how the Clintons accumulated a 100 million dollar worth in this short period, and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know who is really the immoral and criminal one between the two. To put it bluntly, she was very carelessly selling America for personal gain.

Now, its continued with the next Clinton Generation. Chelsea is now worth 15 million dollars, and that doesn't include her husbands own worth of 15 million. Also thanks to Weikileaks, a Hillary Clinton aides email states that the Clinton Foundation paid for Chelsea’s 3 million dollar wedding. This crap just keeps coming and coming, and thats why the foundation is now under FBI & IRS investigation. I'm not a big Trumph fan either, He definitely has his flaws. Many of the people who voted for him wasn't either. But between the two, the lessor of the two evils won, and that's a good thing.

You seem to think I support Clinton. Or even see her as the lesser of 2 evils. Don't be foolish. But just because I think he's marginally less pathetic than her, doesn't mean I have to ignore his own horns.

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So you and your friends are victims of the left's unrealistic propaganda too, eh?

Well, y'all shouldn't quake over it too much. As long as you're not criminals you're probably going to be okay.
Considering Pence hasn't even tried to hide the fact that he wants to abolish friends of mines' marital status, because he "personally believes" it is a sign of societal collapse ( But someone bragging about sexual assault, and it being passed off as "just locker room talk" is A-OK, apparently... ), I think there is due cause for alarm.

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Have you ever started and run your own business? Just curious because you sound like you haven't so have no idea what it takes. Looks nice and easy in books though doesn't it. Not every business will succeed. I darn sure don't expect Trump to pull off miracles with the country and worry too that what he tries might fail. But he simply can't do it alone.

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I'm sure the Kaptain does not take any deductions or tax credits, including the standard deduction, and voluntarily pays the maximum amount possible on taxes every year. If a refund is due, it is refused.

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I'm sure the Kaptain does not take any deductions or tax credits, including the standard deduction, and voluntarily pays the maximum amount possible on taxes every year. If a refund is due, it is refused.

Being morally superior is expensive, or maybe that's just meant for other people.
I'm not harping on the guy for taking a standard tax return. I'm harping on him for ruining peoples' careers in the process. Killing businesses with full intention, just to get more money out of it. When I do my taxes, you know what I do? I submit my W2. I take no dependants ( not even myself ). Not even my own annual donation to the United Way, through my place of business, because that's just more hassle than it's worth. I don't give to receive. But even if I did, nobody loses their career in the process, do they? MONUMENTAL difference.

Also, I will admit that my problem with him isn't even so much with him, directly, as it is a lot of the people who support him. In the short time since he's been declared the President-elect, at least 1 female friend of mine has been attacked by Trumpets obnoxiously shouting "Grab her by the p****!!" to the point of inducing panic attacks, courtesy of her past as a ****ing rape victim. ( Shut up, Porky. Don't even start. )

That's NOT acceptable. In any capacity. But Trump being elected, legitimizes it. I'm absolutely not ok with that. Even if it may not be directly his fault, it's still the result of his actions, and crass, unapologetic attitude about his behavior toward women. It's still his failure to set a good example.

Maybe he'll end up being a good President. I have my doubts, but maybe. But at least for now, this is not a great time to be a minority or a woman. God help you if you're both...

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Boy...you really do keep the blinders on. Are you not aware Trump had a female RUNNING is campaign? Successfully and without anything crass? And have you totally dismissed the thousands he's employed? Why don't you hire just one person then to do your part to show him how it's done. I'm sure he would appreciate learning how to do it correctly. And do you realize how much your filthy mind irritates people even though you don't spell it out so you would be censored? You do have so much room to talk. His was in private at least and only made public by slim balls you hold in such high esteem. Because after all they exposed him.

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Boy...you really do keep the blinders on. Are you not aware Trump had a female RUNNING is campaign? Successfully and without anything crass?
And that changes what about his behavior? Even klansmen have been known to adopt tokens.

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So he's given people jobs. That's nice. But it doesn't make up for putting others out of work. Especially these days, when finding another job isn't especially easy. A lot of families put through undue distress, over a better bottom line for a spoiled rich brat.

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I have no use for an employee. Otherwise, perhaps I would.

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Coming from someone who supports Trump, that accusation seems disingenuous.

Regardless, I could go into a long rant about how there's no such thing as a "filthy word". Only a filthy sentiment.

...But I doubt it'd change your perspective. Or my lack of concern for it. The use is fair and valid. This isn't your safe-space. I'm obeying the official rules. They require we remain "PG-13". A reference to the Motion Picture Association of America rating system, in which a PG-13 rating may be awarded, with allowance of 1 use of "the F word" ( or similarly harsh word ). And I even censored it, myself, voluntarily.

Ergo, no breech of rules. Therefore, no...err..."concern"...given. Even Eye employs it, sometimes.

Although it's rather surprising how sensitive even Trumpets can be. Ironic, even.

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The venue doesn't change the matter. Something said "in private", doesn't make them not liable for the social backlash, if it goes public.

Prime example: Professional wrestling legend Hulk Hogan went on a racist rant "in private", some years ago. It was caught on film. Some time later, it went public. He is now liable for the social backlash, which has included getting fired by the WWE, who's policy does not tolerate racism ( also, it's kind of a PR nightmare to knowingly employ a self-admitted racist ). And that's entirely fair. He made his bed. He can lie in it. And so can Trump.

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Considering Pence hasn't even tried to hide the fact that he wants to abolish friends of mines' marital status, because he "personally believes" it is a sign of societal collapse ( But someone bragging about sexual assault, and it being passed off as "just locker room talk" is A-OK, apparently... ), I think there is due cause for alarm.

Anyone who's lifestyle doesn't fit squarely into an episode of Leave it to Beaver, has plenty to concern themselves with. Their only saving grace, being the checks and balances of power. Which may or may not protect them from the flames.
Some of those on the left have been distorting the words of conservatives for years, and in the last decade it has gotten completely out of hand to the point now where some people have completely forgotten how to listen to others and only hear what they want to hear. If, for example, I were running for office and I said, "Blacks in the US commit far more violent crime, per capita, then whites," then I would likely be a racist who hates blacks and wants to see them denied access to society. If I were to say, "I personally don't like gay marriage and it is against my religious beliefs," then of course, I must be working to make it illegal and banish all gays or throw them off the roofs of buildings. Such hate-mongering evolves from either naivete, or evil intent, depending on its source.

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Also, I will admit that my problem with him isn't even so much with him, directly, as it is a lot of the people who support him. In the short time since he's been declared the President-elect, at least 1 female friend of mine has been attacked by Trumpets obnoxiously shouting "Grab her by the p****!!" to the point of inducing panic attacks, courtesy of her past as a ****ing rape victim. ( Shut up, Porky. Don't even start. )
I call BS!!!! Show us 1 video example of "Trump supporters" saying anything along those lines since the election! You and I both know it would be all over the news if it really did happen, especially on a grand scale. I can point to many examples that have been documented of lefties behaving that way against Trump and his supporters. All I have to do is turn on the news.

I grow tired of people like you labeling "Trump supporters" as one type or another. Do you not comprehend how it makes you appear to be a myopic, drooling neanderthal? Your candidate (whoever that may have been) LOST. Your presidential hopeful did not come up with a message that resonated. Trump did. And just because you fear-monger about his character does not mean that's who he really is. He may be a good president, a bad one. That remains to be seen. What we do know right now is that your characterization of him does nothing but stir up youthful idiots who go out and break stuff they don't own. So, in the interest of peace and civility, people like you need to STFU!

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""Grab her by the p****!!" to the point of inducing panic attacks, courtesy of her past as a ****ing rape victim. ( Shut up, Porky. Don't even start. ) KK's insane quote and rant.

I won't start regarding your ******** language because you have been allowed to do this in lots of your comments and it is allowed by at least one Mod so go for it since you prove what kind of person you are.

I saw a young women's face on the news yesterday, in an extreme close up and on her forehead, one of the other crybaby, liberal anarchist protestors had written: "Not my President." The tears were just streaming down her pathetic face like she was a 5 year old, who missed the ice cream truck. I just hope it was a real tattoo and will always be there as a reminder of when she was brain dead for all to see.

When I picture this women I think of you "Kaptin K Hero of legend" (A legend in your own mind) with tears streaming down your face, ruining your Goth makeup and making you want to just fall on the floor and whimper, like some of the women were doing after the results were announced that their 'inspiration' had lost.

If the Demoncrat had won do you think that conservatives in the population would riot, burn, steal, roll around on the floor and cry like a spoiled 5 year old? Hardly.

Doc Savage summed it up nicely: "Liberalism is a mental disorder.' I couldn't agree more.

"“Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded,” says Dr. Lyle Rossiter, author of the new book, “The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness.” “Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave."
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October and the beginning of November are our best months and it will last until the winter cycle of rain, turn cold, warm up, rain, turn cold, warm up and on and on until March comes and the weather stabilizes. We get a good bit of riding time between the fronts all winter.

Loopholes - anyone who has ever filed income tax has taken advantage of loopholes in the form of deductions.

Gay marriage - A state issue and should not even be addressed on the national stage.

Benghazi - This is a real issue and not the lying either it is about the fact that we did not send military support to try and save those Americans.

Facebook - Because of my business most of my friends are business related and liberals, the uglienss and vulgarity is disguting by the liberals so bad that I have just decided to stay away. Did the conservatives do this when Obama won?

Protests - The protests are boarderline riotes and shows the evilness of those on the far left. Did the hard right do this when Obama won?

I could go on and on but the most important thing to realize is that it only takes 5 people to turn our country into a socialist country and that is a majority on the supreme court and there are already 4 ultra liberals with agendas on that court.

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