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post #41 of 61 (permalink) Old 03-30-2016, 09:56 PM
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I rode a kymco Pulsar CK 125 during my first year at uni, it was not very reliable and I experienced a lot of frustration
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This was an easy one for me. Of the bikes I've owned, the most useless was the Honda Mini-Trail 50.



Even though it was frugal on gas consumption, it really didn't matter because I sure wasn't going to ride it for distance.

Two up riding was possible (I actually added passenger pegs) but it made for a very friendly twosome and not comfortable for more than once around the block. Acceleration with two on board was virtually non-existent and fourth gear didn't even come into play.

Even riding solo, highway cruising was best left in the imagination rather than practice. Even at WOT it was unlikely you'd need to comb your hair when you arrived at your destination.

The spunky little contender did have some nice features such as the folding handlebars allowing the bike to be stashed in the trunk of your car when someone came along you didn't want to be embarrassed in front of.

At the time it was kind of a chick magnet, but when they got close you realized they were laughing at you, not with you.

It could turn extremely short, too. If the turning radius was taking too much room, just stop, pick it up, point it in the direction you want to go, sit back down and off you go... in almost a zero radius!

I bought it thinking it would be useful around the farm, especially checking the cow/calf herd. It was a quiet little thing and combined with the small size, not so likely to spook the livestock. There is a down side to the small size... that it put the rider's point of view a little too low if for some reason one ran inadvertently into a cow's hind end. (That story is related elsewhere on this forum). Cattle Roundup

This Honda Mini-Trail also became the bike I owned for the shortest time.

I used to race Mini Cross on a QA-50. It's this bike without a headlight (I think).

I have several equally "worst bikes".

1966 Benelli 250 single cylinder. I got it in the 70's. My next door neighbor got him one of those Italian Harley's and they looked pretty similar. Equally ugly and equally wouldn't run.

I had a 350 three cylinder Kawasaki that some claimed was the fastest production line bike in its class at that time. Except mine, which had a bad outside jug. It was like trying to ride a washing machine missing one leg.

I had a 250 BSA Starfire that was slower than my QA-50. (An exaggeration but not by a lot).

Today, I'd own any of those bikes as a restoration project.
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Today, I'd own any of those bikes as a restoration project.
I'm with you there! I saw a Honda Mini-Trail 50 on Craigslist today for $1800! If I remember right, I gave $275 brand spanking new.
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2007 Yamaha venture, buy the time I finished replacing parts, I could have built a second bike. this bike had a 3 year warranty. so many issue the bike shop refused to work on it after 2-1/2 years. just a major lemon.
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2002 BMW R1150RT. Yep!, hated that bike. It was a surging pos that BMW never admitted in spite of common problems with the US FI chips causing it to be miserable at 35mph/3500rpm. I used it to commute on a heavily enforced 35mph scenic road. In spite of dealer visits and frequent tire pressure checks, the front tire cupped on one side in about 2000 miles.
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Yamaha XT350. It always took way too many kicks to start it. Once it started, it was great. Don't know if it was characteristic of the model or if there was something out of tune. Tried all different routines with the choke. Nothing helped.
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'73 Kawasaki H2 750cc two stroke that my brother owned. That damned thing was dangerous! Worst handling bike ever. Wouldn't corner worth a damn. The only thing it was good for was going fast in a straight line. I only rode it twice, both very short rides. I don't know how he survived owning it for several years.
WOW! Kawaski released this motorcycle back in the 70s in order to nourish the sleeping motorcycle market back then. I guess they had different safety standards back in the 70s.
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I remember back when I was in my first year of riding, some 25 years ago, and I had just bought my first bike which was a 500cc Honda Shadow. My intention in my dream was to be able to take the wife and I on rides together but that Honda Shadow was a fairly small bike and I wanted some day to get a touring bike.

There was a guy on the other side of town selling a Goldwing, and I knew enough about them that I thought that would be the bike that would be best for my wife and.

I didn't have any money to buy it, but I figured my wife would probably go for it if I could tell her that I liked it and it was in good shape, so I went to his house to take it for a test ride.

It's not that the bike was a bad bike; in fact it was in fairly good condition. What made it the "worst" for "me," was that I wasn't ready to get on a bike of that size and try to handle it. It was much bigger than I was ready for at that early stage of my riding experience.

I took it down the street and had to pull into a driveway and back out onto the same road and go back The way I came.

The bike was much heavier than I anticipated. It was like trying to maneuver a bull by the horn's. I managed to get it back to the guys house without damaging it, but it was a real eye-opener for me.

Even now with all the experience I've had so far on a bike, and even though I moved up gradually and weight classes, I struggle with the full bagger that I currently ride. It's getting easier every day but I'm getting older.

I curse it when I'm tired and I praise it when I'm full of vigor.

Of all the bikes I have a owned, if I had to pick a least favorite, it wouldn't be because of the bike itself, but because of what the bike did not have. The Harley Davidson Fatboy that I own, just prior to this bike, was in fact a nice bike and it ran really well; but the issue I had with it was that it did not have a windshield and I had been spoiled by one already. I didn't enjoy the buffeting from the wind. Not only from a lack of a windshield but also because of the solid centers of the wheels. In a strong windstorm, I could feel the push. Had I kept that bike, I likely would've added a windshield and changed the wheels, even though the solid wheels were one of the main characteristics of the Fatboy.

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If had bought a Heritage instead of a Fatboy would have had the same Bike with Classic Spoke Wheels Windshield and the Most Comfortable made HD Stock Seat ..

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I bought the first year, non-street legal Honda Mini-trail 50, while I was in the Air Force at Edwards AFB in the Mojave desert in Southern California. Why? I could put it into the trunk of my car, drive to a place I wanted to explore and take off! It was perfect for that. Completely reliable and fun! I wish I still had it! Even then and much before that time, I was 'Hopping up' motorcycles, so here's what I did to my little 50:

S65 Camshaft, Cylinder and Piston, which with the extra 15cc's, higher compression and the higher lift and duration S65 cam, allowed maybe 3-4,000 rpm's over stock which made it much faster and powerful!

I would say that my worst modern street bike was my new 2010 Buell 1125R Superbike. It was very uncomfortable even after I put lowered foot pegs and a higher handlebar on it. It got 15 MPG according to the accurate instant readout when I was enjoying the upper reaches of it's performance and barely hit 30+ mpg when ridden like and old man. It vibrated more than any bike I've owned and made the mirrors useless and numbed my hands in 10 miles of riding. It also radiated a lot of heat. The bike was fine for the track and easily surpassed my abilities.

It was a Christmas gift, purchased for me by my Son, sight unseen and it made me very happy of course---until I rode it

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Worst bike I've ever ridden was a 1974 Harley Sportster I had. Beautiful bike, but it would beat the crap out of me going down the road. Like riding a jackhammer on 2 wheels.
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What's the worst bike you've ever ridden?

Mine is a 2000 Yamaha "Midnight" Royal Star, owned by my buddy Clif Danley who works a the Phoenix Rescue Mission.

Reportedly he got it cheap or someone gave it to him.

Another friend, Paul, who volunteers there, rode it and exclaimed "It's the motorcycle equivalent of a farm tractor!" to the nodding heads of EVERYONE who rode it.

All it needs, imho, is a spring metal seat with holes in it.

QUOTE: "Even for a cruiser, the Yamaha XVZ1300A Royal Star handles like a jelly burglar's swag bag. There's hardly any ground clearance, the bike steers slower than the QE2 and the riding position is akin to a dentist's chair. The Yamaha XVZ1300A Royal Star is great fun whilst posing on Brighton prom, but disappointingly vague on normal roads."

It's perhaps the least nimble vehicle, of any size or shape, I've ever ridden. The thing is a pig.

It seems to have a ton of torque without having any noticeable power. You shift like you would a F250 at rpm's barely double of idle speed.

How Yamaha engineers, or anyone, for that matter, could have designed this beast, gotten on, ridden it, and said "Oh yeah we nailed it!" is beyond me.

Warren and I spent an hour inspecting, tuning, adjusting, tightening cables, etc. Couldn't tell any difference. Even with loose plugs and one perhaps not even connected.

Front brakes are mushy despite having plenty of pad on two humongous rotors.

The bike turns like a cargo ship. Gotta start making your turn a half hour before you get to the intersection.

Maneuverability, the ability to swerve or brake hard if I need to is part of what makes me feel SAFE on a motorcycle. This bike has none. All I could do is leave tons of following distance and plan on strong use of the rear brake if I actually needed to stop.

So what's the worst machine you've ever ridden?

Anyone else with experience with one of these Royal Stars care to comment?
Wade, have you ever ridden a motorcycle or all of your opinions based what on other people told you and your extensive scooter experience?
I owned one of those Yamahas and would still have it today if it could carry 2 people in comfort. It was a nice touring style configuration with power to spare and a very comfortable mile eating ride. All bikes handle about the same once you actually learn how to ride, the differences are lean angle clearance and I never lean far enough to worry much about that on any bike. My RSTD stopped at least as well as my HD Ultra with the ABS system on it and almost as well as my present Victory Vision also with ABS. As far as handling, can you U-turn your bike in a tract house street like I did with my RSTD? I will admit I had to practice to be able to maneuver the way the bike could do but that is true on any bike. It does have a long wheelbase at 67 inches compared to a sport bike but it is not a sport bike and is designed for a different kind of riding. So is my uber long Vision with a wheelbase at close to 66 inches compared to say a Road Glide at 64 inches or an EG Ultra also at 64 inches. Most sport bikes are going to be under or around 60 inches because they are meant to turn fast but are not designed to let you sit back and relax at 80 MPH for a couple of hundred miles at a time. By my standards they are twitchy in the steering not confidence inspiring. I guess it comes down to what you like and what you are used to riding.
This was mine and it would still be my ride if it could carry both of us in comfort. The pillion seat left a lot to be desired.


As far as your supposed subject. I found my 60s 305 dream to be a nightmare.


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Worst motorcycle I have ever ridden was a Ridley Autoglide. I've never had an inanimate object try so hard to kill me
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I had two one was a 80's intruder forget the exact year but it was the last for the 700 that thing started a death wobble at speeds of 50 and up. Second was a 79 goldwing was really comfortable but I couldn't flat foot. No matter what shop I took it to they said it can't be lowered for safety reasons.


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trail 50

By far was the worst bike i have ever rode age 10 , The steering was just a mess it was like i was fighting it all the time . That by far is the worst .
Wish i had her now in the condition she was in then . Now it would be worth a small fortune
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69 Kawasaki 500, 71 Norton 750 Commando. Both bought new. And they both had some redeeming qualities.

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Back in the late 60s, early 70s I worked at a Honda dealer that also sold Kawasaki. I took a test ride on the infamous Kawasaki H1. Hands down the worst bike Iíve been on. Even at the risk taking age of 21 I knew I would die on it if I bought it so I opted for CL450 Honda instead. The 750 Norton mentioned is one of my favorite bikes. I loved the way it loped along, the power it had and it handles better then most although the wrenching to riding ratio was about 1 to 2.
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Back in the late 60s, early 70s I worked at a Honda dealer that also sold Kawasaki. I took a test ride on the infamous Kawasaki H1. Hands down the worst bike Iíve been on. Even at the risk taking age of 21 I knew I would die on it if I bought it so I opted for CL450 Honda instead. The 750 Norton mentioned is one of my favorite bikes. I loved the way it loped along, the power it had and it handles better then most although the wrenching to riding ratio was about 1 to 2.
Is that 1 hour of wrenching to 2 hours of riding or 2 hours of wrenching to 1 hour of riding? Just curious.

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Is that 1 hour of wrenching to 2 hours of riding or 2 hours of wrenching to 1 hour of riding? Just curious.
LOL. The bike belonged to a good friend of mine and I rode it every chance I had. On one ride up north with me riding my 450, my dad on his BMW and Gilbert on his Norton we had to stop when the Norton dropped the entire exhaust system. We spent a good 45 minutes finding parts and putting it back together. It was always an adventure.
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